| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
philipjames
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
|
 Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: A question about Korean Christians. |
 |
|
How do Koreans reconcile themselves to the fact that Jesus (allegedly) came to save humanity 2000 years ago, yet God decided to bring salvation to Korea only 100 years ago. How do they account for the fact of ol' Jehovah's lack of consideration, and downright neglect, of Korea for 1900 years. Do they accept that their ancestors are suffering eternal torment? Do they accept that all of Korea's 'great' leaders and generals are in hell?
Never figured out how Koreans reconcile their faith with the Dude's 1,900 years of anti-Korean neglect.
Last edited by philipjames on Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:17 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: A question about Korean Christians. |
|
|
| Good question, but I think it applies to everyone except the Jews. Why did God send Jesus specifically to the Jews? Why not the Irish or the vikings? Incidentally, according to Mormonism God did send Jesus to America, but that ended badly with the Natives (originally a tribe of Israel) being cursed with dark skin. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
cazador83
Joined: 28 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| it doesn't make a difference, because if they truly didn't know about christ then they are saved through their innocence. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| cazador83 wrote: |
| it doesn't make a difference, because if they truly didn't know about christ then they are saved through their innocence. |
According to most Christians and the New Testament, if they weren't saved by Jesus, they aren't getting into heaven. Innocent or not. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
|
| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
There are lots of different interpretations, which to me is just more egg in the face of religion. However,
| cazador83 wrote: |
| it doesn't make a difference, because if they truly didn't know about christ then they are saved through their innocence. |
If that were true, Christians are guilty of a serious crime and should just keep it all to themselves, like Scientologists try. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:47 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Wouldn't this apply to Canada and USA too, as those countries are younger than 2000 years. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:50 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Well why did God wait 4000 years after the fall of Adam and Eve to send Jesus? Why let all that sin go on for thousands of years? That's a long time to wait before giving up on humanity finding its own salvation. Although God of course knew that sin would go on for thousands of years after Adam and Eve as well as after the flood. But no he waited for it to fester more, then sent his son. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:55 am Post subject: Re: A question about Korean Christians. |
|
|
| philipjames wrote: |
How do Koreans reconcile themselves to the fact that Jesus (allegedly) came to save humanity 2000 years ago, yet God decided to bring salvation to Korea only 100 years ago. How do they account for the fact of ol' Jehovah's lack of consideration, and downright neglect, of Korea for 1900 years. Do they accept that their ancestors are suffering eternal torment? Do they accept that all of Korea's 'great' leaders and generals are in hell?
Never figured out how Koreans reconcile their faith with the Dude's 1,900 of anti-Korean neglect. |
Two words, and not necessarily exclusive to Korean Christians: cognitive dissonance.
Peace |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:56 am Post subject: re: |
|
|
| cazador83 wrote: |
| it doesn't make a difference, because if they truly didn't know about christ then they are saved through their innocence. |
Ah, but only according to the one of many interpretations of the Apostle Paul's writings (assuming he wrote the book of Romans, which is by no means a consensus assumption).
Peace |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: Re: A question about Korean Christians. |
|
|
| seoulunitarian wrote: |
| philipjames wrote: |
How do Koreans reconcile themselves to the fact that Jesus (allegedly) came to save humanity 2000 years ago, yet God decided to bring salvation to Korea only 100 years ago. How do they account for the fact of ol' Jehovah's lack of consideration, and downright neglect, of Korea for 1900 years. Do they accept that their ancestors are suffering eternal torment? Do they accept that all of Korea's 'great' leaders and generals are in hell?
Never figured out how Koreans reconcile their faith with the Dude's 1,900 of anti-Korean neglect. |
Two words, and not necessarily exclusive to Korean Christians: cognitive dissonance.
Peace |
Ding ding. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
nobbyken
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:09 am Post subject: |
|
|
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Campaign_against_Korea,_1866
Korea was very closed to Western missionaries for a long time.
There is a foreigners cemetry in Seoul and nearby there is a Catholic church built on a hill where thousands of French catholics were killed as they landed on Korean soil.
Next to the church there is museum showing all the torture methods used against missionaries, and methods employed by missionaries in order to escape detection. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:14 am Post subject: re: |
|
|
| nobbyken wrote: |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Campaign_against_Korea,_1866
Korea was very closed to Western missionaries for a long time.
There is a foreigners cemetry in Seoul and nearby there is a Catholic church built on a hill where thousands of French catholics were killed as they landed on Korean soil.
Next to the church there is museum showing all the torture methods used against missionaries, and methods employed by missionaries in order to escape detection. |
Unless one yields to a belief in at least a semi-Calvinist god (aka as the author of at least some types of evil - can't get around it), how can one believe that god would not exercise his omnipotence over xenophobia in favor of saving souls?
I must admit that I am playing the devil's advocate here. It is much more reasonable to posit the non-existence of god in the case of all "god/theological questions" because it is the most probable of all alternative explanations.
Peace |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:23 am Post subject: |
|
|
| nobbyken wrote: |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Campaign_against_Korea,_1866
Korea was very closed to Western missionaries for a long time.
There is a foreigners cemetry in Seoul and nearby there is a Catholic church built on a hill where thousands of French catholics were killed as they landed on Korean soil.
Next to the church there is museum showing all the torture methods used against missionaries, and methods employed by missionaries in order to escape detection. |
I love when you mention this period in Korean history to your kids, a time when any foreigner was pretty much killed without delay. The look on their faces is like "why did this magical time ever have to end?" |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Ilsanman wrote: |
| Wouldn't this apply to Canada and USA too, as those countries are younger than 2000 years. |
It would apply to the natives, not the westerners, as the westerns came from societies that had Christians long before 1492. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
nobbyken
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^
|
| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:58 am Post subject: Re: re: |
|
|
| seoulunitarian wrote: |
Unless one yields to a belief in at least a semi-Calvinist god (aka as the author of at least some types of evil - can't get around it), how can one believe that god would not exercise his omnipotence over xenophobia in favor of saving souls?
I must admit that I am playing the devil's advocate here. It is much more reasonable to posit the non-existence of god in the case of all "god/theological questions" because it is the most probable of all alternative explanations.
Peace |
Ummm?. A semi-calvinistic God or a semi-godly Calvin?
Calvin was Calvin, God is God.
Isaiah 55:9
"As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts."
Every person has a choice between good or evil, so we should pray for those with authority over us.
John 19:10,11
10"Do you refuse to speak to me?" Pilate said. "Don't you realize I have power either to free you or to crucify you?"
11Jesus answered, "You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin."
&
Romans 13:2
Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
