Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

the sleaze factor!
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:56 am    Post subject: the sleaze factor! Reply with quote

ok, here it is... i'm a recent arrival who has been for a few nights out here and all i can say is 'jesus, the foreigner scene is sleazy!'

i know i'll get flamed for this, but it seems to me like so many guys come to korea because they can't get laid at home, and have heard from someone that korean girls like western men. unfortunately the lustfulness of these fat, bald old men seems to be reciprocated by many of the korean girls who go to these establishments, even in spite of the fact that so many of these guys approach them in an unbelievably sleazy manner.

now, as much as i like korean girls, i'm getting really put off talking to any in these places, because i don't want to be part of something that i find pretty nauseating. so, are there any decent english-speaking places that aren't like this?!? (particularly busan, please!)

and yeah, i know i'm arrogant for thinking i'm more attractive, or better even, than these fat old men. so you don't need to tell me of it, ok?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What sort of place were you in? It sounds like you've been witnessing old guys who pay for the attention and services of these girls...not unusual in Korea- or anywhere. I haven't seen many balding old guys who genuinely have young and pretty girlfriends- the ones i have definitely appear to be showering them with cash...
Don't know much about Busan but I'm sure theres plenty of normal bars where you can try your luck chatting up gals who aren't in it for money...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ratslash



Joined: 08 May 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like you are either watching whores or women who are after the old guys for their money. in either case, not exactly the kind of woman you want to be making your girlfriend. just move around busan, try out different bars. i'm sure you'll find one that is just right for you.

also, if you are looking for a full time girlfriend, remember that most people don't find the love of their life in a bar.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't like Busan too much. There were only a few bars to hang out in, I remember. One was the Hollywood Star and that place was jammed with army guys...however, when they went home, the girls were still in the bars and drunk. Another was New York New York, but last I knew they banned all foreigners. There's another place near PNU that gets packed with foreigners and koreans, but the place was really small and there were more korean guys than anything. I suppose you've already checked out pusanweb.com Well, you could try koreafriendfinder.com or koreaherald.com
What you could be seeing is the co-worker scene. A lot of times schools and the teachers go out together. Perhaps what you are seeing is just hanging out, not dating. I rarely see super ugly bald guys with beautiful girls. Usually the girls they are with are not that good looking. Anyway, I could write more, but this topic has been done to death.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey guys,
thanks- i'm not really looking for a girlfriend either, just a normal sort of scene, you know what i mean? i know these bars aren't the kind of hooker hangouts you describe, but just english speaking bars that are full of weirdos! are there any western type clubs in korea?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobbyhanlon wrote:
hey guys,
thanks- i'm not really looking for a girlfriend either, just a normal sort of scene, you know what i mean? i know these bars aren't the kind of hooker hangouts you describe, but just english speaking bars that are full of weirdos! are there any western type clubs in korea?


You are not going to find what you are looking for. Things will not be by the same rules as when back home. I understand where you are coming from, but I feel you need to change the way you are thinking about heading out for a drink kind of night. Find your niche and build from there, don't get worked up because some older fat man is with some (what you think) hot bird. If you knew the facts of there socailizing, most likely you would preceed with a big "OH" Rolling Eyes
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ratslash



Joined: 08 May 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in that case, if you are not looking for a girlfriend, why are you bothered, why do you even care that a "hot" korean woman is with a fat western guy?!?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobby Hanlon wrote:

Quote:
unfortunately the lustfulness of these fat, bald old men seems to be reciprocated by many of the korean girls who go to these establishments


Unfortunate for whom? Aren't both the guys and the girls VOLUNTARILY participating in these relationships?

Normally, people on this board complain when Korean girls date Korean men who treat them badly. But, when they date foreigners, Bobby Hanlon comes on and complains that they're dating the WRONG KIND of foreigner, based on his apparent criteria of "thin, young, and with a full head of hair". Sheesh.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Sliver



Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: The third dimension

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try

Blues Baine - Seomyeon
Basement - PNU
Moo Monk - PNU and Kyeonsang U
Vinyl Underground - Kyeonsang U
Seoul Train - PNU

Or for other less obvious places you can PM me.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Odysseus



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Earth

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Normally, people on this board complain when Korean girls date Korean men who treat them badly. But, when they date foreigners, Bobby Hanlon comes on and complains that they're dating the WRONG KIND of foreigner, based on his apparent criteria of "thin, young, and with a full head of hair". Sheesh.


Right on "On the other hand"!!!!!

Really Bobby, why do you give a rat's ass who dates who?

You are asking the wrong people. Ask the women who date these guys why they do it, if you really want to know. If they have any brain at all they will tell you it's none of your f**cking business. Freedom baby!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobbyhanlon,

Are you really in Busan? I lived there for a year and I never ever saw any old foreign men with hot young Korean women. The only exception I can think is the sailors who pay for sex down in Russia Town down by the ports.. but with the exception of that small area.. I'd say good luck to anyone in that entire city trying to get a hot sexy Korean girl.. particularly for old foreign men.

Anyhow, seems like you're either spamming the board.. or projecting seedy sleezy Russia Town for the entire city.. or you are basing your experience on some Pattaya/Angeles City southeast Asian city or something.. whichever is the case it definetely is not common in Busan. Never saw anything like that in my year in Busan.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Sliver



Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: The third dimension

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to go with TB on the Texas street thing (I live in Joongang dong less than 5 minutes walk from Texas street). Outside of there I don't see the hotties with the fat oldies (sorry to use such steriotypical terminolgy, usually not my style).

I have lived in pusan for nearly three years to present day.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sliver wrote:
Outside of there I don't see the hotties with the fat oldies (sorry to use such steriotypical terminolgy, usually not my style).

In addition, those young hot sexy women are charging those old men something like 10,000 to 20,000 won a drink which is finished in less than 10 minutes if they're lucky.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok everyone, cheers for the helpful comments, and even the angry ones. i know what you're saying, and i'm sorry if any of you found my comments offensive. but anyway, i'm entitled to like or dislike whatever i please, just as everyone else is.
i must say this week i tried some other places and had a great time, so i'm not going to complain any more.
all the best to everyone
bobby
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobbyhanlon wrote:
ok everyone, cheers for the helpful comments, and even the angry ones. i know what you're saying, and i'm sorry if any of you found my comments offensive. but anyway, i'm entitled to like or dislike whatever i please, just as everyone else is.
i must say this week i tried some other places and had a great time, so i'm not going to complain any more.
all the best to everyone
bobby

Now that you've been in Korea awhile, how has your previous perceptions changed?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International