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Beeyee

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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:27 am Post subject: Benazir Bhutto is dead |
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On CNN now.
Update: Bullet wound to the neck, after the bomb blast.
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Beeyee

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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:40 am Post subject: |
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She's dead. |
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Tiger Beer

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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Wish I was offered CNN on my Cable TV.
That's messed up though, I mean that suicide bombing. I'm reading about it now elsewhere. |
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big_fella1
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: |
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Australia Network quoted that her husband had confirmed she had been injured. BBC world is reporting she died on the operating table. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Pretty sad
Pakistan's Bhutto Killed By Bombing
RAWALPINDI, Pakistan - Pakistan opposition leader Benazir Bhutto was assassinated Thursday in a suicide bombing that also killed at least 20 others at a campaign rally, a party aide and a military official said.
"At 6:16 p.m. she expired," said Wasif Ali Khan, a member of Bhutto's party who was at Rawalpindi General Hospital where she was taken after the attack.
A senior military official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment, confirmed that Bhutto had died.
Her supporters at the hospital began chanting "Dog, Musharraf, dog," referring to Pakistan's president Pervez Musharraf. Some of them smashed the glass door at the main entrance of the emergency unit, others burst into tears
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/pakistan;_ylt=AnOGhSNrYmoaP_RXD6p7uvADW7oF |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:18 am Post subject: |
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did america's pakistani marcos just have his ninoy aquino moment? |
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:40 am Post subject: |
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from CNN International
Bhutto confirmed dead, likely from shrapnel from an explosive device that also killed or maimed more than a hundred supporters.
Pakistan is a basketcase and has been for years. Musharaf was only able to contain it, and often not even then.
While not of such moral principle as her Burmese sister, she had a moral compass and a firm grasp on the harsh realities of life in this turbulent nation. She loved her country more than herself as evident by her willingness to return to politics after a self-exile of ten years in London. She could have remained in the lap of luxury, griping from a comfortable distance, but did not. She was steadfast after an earlier assassination attempt. Was she power hungry? I think not. And a former colleague in China, a Kiwi who had worked for the UN in Pakistan for 15 years, said that she was the one bright light in an otherwise utterly corrupt Karachi government. While personally apolitical, he admired her courage even then during her first term in office after democratic elections. Allegations of bribery and embezzlement have never been substantiated.
A sad day, indeed, for anyone who cares about the prospect for democracy in this part of the world.
And the only woman to lead a Muslim nation is gone. And once again Muslim men show their fear of Muslim women. Their unfounded fear and arrogance continues to breed social unrest and fanaticism.
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Perhaps fiercely loyal and misguided supporters of Musharaf were behind the attack but I doubt it. I can't imagine he'd be so openly calculating and foolish in the wake of recent vows to step down. Nor do I for a moment would I implicate Sharif. More likely it will bear out that Islamic fundamentalists are to blame, especially those sympathetic to al-Qaeda and the Taliban. The place where the assassination occurred is in close proximity to the troubled border territory, which violently opposed Bhutto's election campaign.
All this said, if it materializes that Musharaf or any of his inner circle (as opposed to the mob) are implicated, I think the U.S. must seriously reconsider our support of his regime regardless of the short-term damage to diplomatic relations and the war on terror. Afghan President Kharzai is clearly no fan of Musharaf and so would probably welcome such intervention anyhow. |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:24 am Post subject: |
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Steve, with all due respect. I don't want to get into an argument over this one, but I think the problem that Musharaf has been a dictator and obtained power through a military coup, should have been a reason to pull support the moment he took power.
I really fail to see what Pakistan has done to fight terrorism. Perhaps I missed it in the headlines. Bottom line, a once previously democratically elected president has been assinated. If a real crackdown on the extremists happened, perhaps it would not have taken place. |
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canuckistan Mod Team


Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:50 am Post subject: |
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More likely it will bear out that Islamic fundamentalists are to blame, especially those sympathetic to al-Qaeda and the Taliban. |
Certain elements in the Pakistani security services..... |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: |
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And the only woman to lead a Muslim nation is gone. |
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Diah Permata Megawati Setiawati Soekarnoputri (born January 23, 1947), was President of Indonesia from July 2001 to October 20, 2004. She was the country's first female President, and the first Indonesian leader born after independence. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:57 am Post subject: |
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And the only woman to lead a Muslim nation is gone. |
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Diah Permata Megawati Setiawati Soekarnoputri (born January 23, 1947), was President of Indonesia from July 2001 to October 20, 2004. She was the country's first female President, and the first Indonesian leader born after independence. |
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karma police

Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Location: all roads lead to where you are...
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:35 am Post subject: |
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<wow! didn't even realize there is a Current Events Forum on this site until now! >
(continued from other thread of the same subject incorrectly posted in other forum)...not to mention those crude nuclear weapons they got aimed at India...
tragic, heartbreaking, crime against civilization...such a devastating loss and a totally dire day for democracy in the world's most dangerous country...
she was so cool. so sad...  |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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From Yahoo:
""How can somebody who can shoot her get so close to her with all the so-called security?" said a distraught Husain Haqqani, a former top aide to Bhutto, shortly after news of her death flashed around the world. Haqqani, who served as a spokesman and top aide to Bhutto for more than a decade, blamed Pakistani security, either through neglect or complicity, in her assassination. "This is the security establishment, which has always wanted her out," he said through tears...
The U.S. has long supported a return to power by Bhutto, who was perceived to be a moderate willing to work with Washington on the war on terror. She was also seen as a democratic leader who would serve as a counter to the plummeting popularity of Musharraf...
Haqqani, now a professor at Boston University, isn't sure what the latest bloodshed means for his country. "Will the Pakistani military realize that this is going to tear the fabric of the nation apart, and so really get serious about securing the country and about getting serious in dealing with the extremist jihadis?" he wondered. But he made clear he feels the best chance for such a policy has just evaporated. "She did show courage, and she was the only person who spoke out against terrorism," he said. "She was let down by those in Washington who think that sucking up to bad governments around the world is their best policy option."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/makingamartyrofbhutto
What's happened is a tragedy, but I don't see how it is the fault of Washington.
Maybe this will be the spark that finally convinces the Pakistani army and Intelligence Service to get serious about stopping the chaos in Pakistan. You can only hope. |
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canuckistan Mod Team


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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe this will be the spark that finally convinces the Pakistani army and Intelligence Service to get serious about stopping the chaos in Pakistan |
Certain elements of the intelligence services are exactly why there's chaos in Pakistan...and Afghanistan.
They are a law unto themselves which even Musharraf cannot control, and if he tried, they'd simply kill him too. They stood the most to lose if Bhutto was returned to power in the Jan elections--even in a coalition. She had a bounty on her head the moment she returned to Pakistan--she knew it.
I am in awe of her courage to go forward anyways.
It's a sad day for Pakistan and hope the ensuing wretchedness leads to a good number of well-chosen eliminations in the security service ranks. |
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