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Huemeister



Joined: 12 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Rejected by new visa rules Reply with quote

Well, if you think that having taught one year in Korea will make the renewal of your visa go smoothly, despite the new rules, think again. I was just rejected because of two arrests (for possession and burglary - with no convictions) that happened 25 years ago, when I was 17.

As I said, I had already taught here for one year, without breaking any laws. I could go on and rag on the enitire country and the Korean mentality, but that would be far too easy and has been done here enough before.

Just be warned. And for schools trying to find teachers after these ridiculous new restrictions - good luck.
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blurgalurgalurga



Joined: 18 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! That's absurd. Rejected, without ever being convicted? 25 years ago? When you were seven f***ing teen?!?!?
What country was that, man?
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Wad



Joined: 19 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well two things don't wash here.

First, I was under the impression that the new regulations dont apply till March 15th 2008 for renewals.

Secondly,criminal records usually only show convictions...not arrests.

Hate to say it, but smells like a troll!
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Huemeister



Joined: 12 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure what you mean by "troll," but I can assure you this is real; it happened to me. They said the rules took effect as of mid-Dec., and no, I wasn't convicted. I think the incident of the TEFL teacher who was arrested in Thailand for child molestation has made them leary of Westerners with even a hint of a criminal past.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What country are you from?
Did you submit something to immigration that showed your arrest record?
Did you give immigration permission to access your file in your home country?
Something doesn't sound right....mroe info please...
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Beeyee



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is truly shocking if true.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP: Did you submit a criminal record that showed the arrests, or did you (foolishly) disclose them yourself?

No convictions should mean no record and innocent.
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TheChickenLover



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: The Chicken Coop

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually stated this a few weeks ago. They want a CLEAN rap sheet. No arrests, no convictions, nothing. I was told that people could get renewed for having low level crimes on their history's. One poster claimed to have been renewed with a criminal history.

This rejection will remain on file & may prevent him from getting a job here again here in the future. I wrote earlier, if you have ANY history show up, you MUST have done something bad. That's the way the criminal system here works (blood money).

I'm sorry for your loss. It's not fair.

Chicken
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normalcyispasse



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. That sucks for people with arrests but no convictions. I wonder if expunged records will appear. Ah, whatever. This place is f*cked.

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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how it works in other countries, but in the US "innocent until proven guilty" means arrests without convictions don't show up on your record. Are FBI records different?? That would mean if you were a 6 foot tall, blond haired man near a liquor store that had just been robbed by another 6 foot tall, blond haired man and the police arrested you, the wrong person, but you were later found innocent because you were at a bakery during the robbery, you would have a criminal record. The US legal system doesn't operate like this.
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slothrop



Joined: 03 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edit

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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
I don't know how it works in other countries, but in the US "innocent until proven guilty" means arrests without convictions don't show up on your record. Are FBI records different?? That would mean if you were a 6 foot tall, blond haired man near a liquor store that had just been robbed by another 6 foot tall, blond haired man and the police arrested you, the wrong person, but you were later found innocent because you were at a bakery during the robbery, you would have a criminal record. The US legal system doesn't operate like this.


Well....the police in Canada can see if you have ever been arrested for a crime. My buddy and I were walking once to the 7-eleven. The cops stopped us and questioned us. A store got robbed and we were in the area. My buddy had an old arrest show up on the cops system in the car. We actually got taken to the store for the guy to say it wasn't us.
--Freaked me out.
So...arrests do stay in the system.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If arrests stay on record, I'm guessing the Korean system that is so ignorant of our laws is just going to think it's equal to a conviction. Sparkling.
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normalcyispasse



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
If arrests stay on record, I'm guessing the Korean system that is so ignorant of our laws is just going to think it's equal to a conviction. Sparkling.


Dynamic Korea. It sparkles my ass right out the door.

/2 more months, of which 4 weeks are vacation -- I can do it, I can do it. . .
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

77 days for me
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