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Who has an F-5 Visa?
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
Horangi Munshin wrote:
3500/450 and 9000/150 might be similar actually.

I think someone said somewhere and I have noticed it to be true near where I live that and cheonman won gets a 50000 a month deduction from the wol-sae part.


My husband says that it's usually 10m for every 100,000...

So... 9000-3500 = 5500 = 500,000...

Yes, I think it's similar.


Its about that. I know at my old place it was 6000/500
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mack the knife



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: standing right behind you...

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BOOM!

F-5 arrived in the mail yesterday!*

When I applied the immigration officer didn't even talk to me. My wife handed her the papers, the officer stamped them, and that was that. It took less than a month to receive it by mail.

The officer lady was like "Oh, your husband's that "Mack the Knife" guy? He's so right on the money about everything. And I hear he's hung below the knees. Some women have all the luck..."






































* "yesterday" must always be read with an Australian accent
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Canucksaram



Joined: 29 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:17 am    Post subject: F-5 and then a divorce? Reply with quote

If you're married and later acquire an F-5 visa after the appropriate time and later get divorced, what happens to you? Is the F-5 nullified and then it's time to pack your bags? Or can you remain in the country after divorcing?
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can of worms, can of worms.
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fence sitter



Joined: 17 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you're married and later acquire an F-5 visa after the appropriate time and later get divorced, what happens to you?


Nothing. The F-5 is a permanent resident visa. You can stay here 'till the cows come home.
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*raises hand*
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please don't take this the wrong way. It is something I want to understand and I have to ask the person who knows best. Bluelake, I wonder how you managed, psychologically if not managerially, without the F visa all the while being sponsored by your workplace rather than your family, for all those years ... In your mind you knew that your very existence in Korea was determined by your boss, even though you had a son in the school system for 17 or so years, a house, a wife, personal investments, extended close family ... How did you manage that process?
If it were me I think I would have come close to strangling some ratbag official. I did nearly a couple of times. I mean, thank God for the F visa but I only endured the coming of it for five years, yours was like 20. How did you stay calm as I should practice whatever secret you use?


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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do I have to buy/lease/rent an apartment? Or is a certain amount of money in the bank enough?

How about years in country? How many gets you within F-5 shooting distance?
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheonmunka wrote:
Please don't take this the wrong way. It is something I want to understand and I have to ask the person who knows best. Bluelake, I wonder how you managed, psychologically if not managerially, without the F visa all the while being sponsored by your workplace rather than your family, for all those years ... In your mind you knew that your very existence in Korea was determined by your boss, even though you had a son in the school system for 17 or so years, a house, a wife, personal investments, extended close family ... How did you manage that process?
If it were me I think I would have come close to strangling some ratbag official. I did nearly a couple of times. I mean, thank God for the F visa but I only endured the coming of it for five years, yours was like 20. How did you stay calm as I should practice whatever secret you use?



Hehehe^^ I guess you could say that ignorance was bliss... For many years, the F visa was not even available and, when it finally did come into being, I was so far out of the loop, I didn't know anything about it. I really only found out about it about four years ago, but got my first F visa (F2) three years ago. At the time, I was fairly insulated from other F visa holders, as I lived in a small city.

Here at my present university, the fellow in Academic Affairs who handles employment/immigration issues was very happy I had an F2 when I first came here and was elated when I received my F5. It cuts down on his headaches.
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TheChickenLover



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheonmunka wrote:
Please don't take this the wrong way. It is something I want to understand and I have to ask the person who knows best. Bluelake, I wonder how you managed, psychologically if not managerially, without the F visa all the while being sponsored by your workplace rather than your family, for all those years ... In your mind you knew that your very existence in Korea was determined by your boss, even though you had a son in the school system for 17 or so years, a house, a wife, personal investments, extended close family ... How did you manage that process?
If it were me I think I would have come close to strangling some ratbag official. I did nearly a couple of times. I mean, thank God for the F visa but I only endured the coming of it for five years, yours was like 20. How did you stay calm as I should practice whatever secret you use?


You take it one day, one contract a time. When you the F-2 visa, you're free of the shackles of the E-2 visa. You can work anywhere you want and have so much freedom, you realize that you have some real control over your work. One thing that pissed me off was the renewal process. One time the immi officer berated my wife for marrying me, she left the office crying saying "they are such horrible people". When I told her we could get an F-5 visa and never have to return again. That sealed the deal for her. We had the visa in less than 1 month after an extensive interview in our home.

The F-5 never expires. The F-2 CAN expire after your wife dies (not exactly fun). It's your visa. Immi can't touch you. It's like a coat of armor that shields you from the excessive crap that can be demanded of you since you don't need to do it to work. You're not viewed as a temporary worker. There's also nothing stopping you or anythign that people can punish you with from picking up and walking out the door to another job in the same day.

Cool

F-5 = absolute freedom baby

Chicken
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheChickenLover wrote:

The F-5 never expires.


Not necessarily true. As all our property is in my wife's name, she still remained a "sponsor" on my F5; we have to go back to immi in four years because of that. Before that time, however, I plan to have lots of our stuff put in my name. I thought, incorrectly, that my solid university job would be enough when I applied.
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mack the knife



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not necessarily true. As all our property is in my wife's name, she still remained a "sponsor" on my F5


That didn't happen for us. Maybe that's an old rule.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogbert wrote:
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Another advantage is that you will not have to wait with all the cattle, er, I mea foreigners when you pass through customs at Incheon. You can follow the Koreans and go through with them. That means much shorter lines.


That really depends on the flight. There are a lot of flights into Korea where the Korean passengers far outnumber the foreign passengers who are not transiting. I find the lines for foreigners are usually shorter and its more often the problem that the Korean citizens are going through those lines to avoid the longer Korean citizen lines.


I like being able to pick which is the shortest. Last two times I have flown, my son was still little like tzechuk's, so we also went through the crew/diplomat line. It's a courtesy that many airports offer to parents of small children.


I was married for a couple of years before it even occurred to Immigration to inform me of the F-2 and the F-5...and it took 5 years back then to get an F-5.
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bluelake



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mack the knife wrote:
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Not necessarily true. As all our property is in my wife's name, she still remained a "sponsor" on my F5


That didn't happen for us. Maybe that's an old rule.


Then again, rules tend to vary from office to office. It doesn't really matter to me--when I go back in four years, I'll have property put in my name.
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mack the knife wrote:
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Not necessarily true. As all our property is in my wife's name, she still remained a "sponsor" on my F5


That didn't happen for us. Maybe that's an old rule.



So they replace your ARC completely? I just renewed my F2-1 for the second year, and noticed that the card remained the same...they just wrote a new date in black magic marker and covered it with some tape. Just wondering what happens when you get the F5.

Thanks!
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