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gajackson1 · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject:

sorry to say, but Reedtea & I deal with the same type of problem at least once a week - often 2-3 times.

There is a sleazier chicken hof & small taxi-driver oriented restaurant in the building next to ours, on the first floor (we are up on the 3rd).

In the 3 years we have been in our 'home' - a villa in an otherwise mom&pop residential 'villa' area - there have been countless incidents downstairs, late at night, during the week, usually involving drunk Korean men (and occasionally women).

Besides the peeing & vomiting in the passthrough (which is actually a driveway - but thank sky, not the one we park our cars in) between the buildings (the restrooms are 'in back'), there are frequent yelling matches and fistfights.

Police or mobs of rival taxi companies show up on a regular basis.

Now, we actually don't blame the drunks so much as we do the chicken hof & shik-dang owners - THEY are the ones who continue to serve them, and let them get up to that point. If there is an occasional unexpected fight in your bar/restaurant, that is one thing. But when it becomes a regular occurance, you have an issue.

Lots of the other neighbors ignore it, but after more then 15 minutes, we open the windows & yell. If we had buckets, I think we'd throw water sometimes.

I feel your pain on this one. And I, for the most part, really like living here & our neighborhood in general.

Regards,

G.

RACETRAITOR · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea

SeoulShakin · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul

GI or not (though I'm fairly sure he was - I don't know many guys who get their hair styled that way by choice), the comments and death threats were unnecessary.

Korean or not, their behaviour was inconsiderate.

Admittedly, my saying shut up wasn't super polite, but the reaction to it was extreme.

Argue all you want, but those points are true.

ajgeddes · Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan

SeoulShakin · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul

ajgeddes · Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan

SeoulShakin · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul

sojourner1 · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject:

It's idiots like those who make it that much harder for all expats, because they scare and offend the local host nationals. (That's what US military calls the people in foreign countries)

I too was a soldier who seen a lot of shit go down, but luckily I was never this retarded even though you might think my writing is retarded. lol

For those of you living near US military bases, you should keep the MP phone numbers handy and call them when you see this kind of stupidity. They will come out and round those boys up for a court martial with an Article 16 which means they get half pay and extra duty for several months and a reduction in rank. They can and will round em' up off base (if they can find the place) due to the status of forces agreement (SOFA) allowing American military law to apply to civilian areas when relevant. Every 1st sergeant and commander warns soldiers about getting too drunk and fighting, but many brainless idiots just do it even more. They are also told all about how they are ambassadors representing the good ol' US of A and how we shouldn't come off as arrogant foolish show offs to the point where Americans are hated and unwelcome.

I had two Koreans tell me they don't want Americans here due to GI's not paying taxis, punching people, vandalizing property, fighting, yelling, intimidations, and spoiling the pure blood (LMAO!) by getting women pregnant without taking responsibility for the baby. This sort of thing with GI's is nothing new to me as it's the same sad situation all over the world and I have seen it in many countries when I served in the army. In many places around the world, the locals are saying, "Go home and fix you're own problems!"

CentralCali · Joined: 17 May 2007

It's either Article 15 (Non-judicial Punishment) or court-martial. And you can't tell just by their haircuts that someone's US military. For one thing, plenty of people do like their hair that short. For another, female military aren't required to have short hair.

The Status of Forces Agreement isn't what makes military law applicable to US military off-base. It's just good ol' US federal law: the UCMJ (a code of federal law) applies to all active duty US military no matter where they happen to find themselves.

The Koreans who whined about US military not paying taxes are ignorant. In the first place, they do pay taxes (both state and federal) on their military salary. In the 2nd place, they also pay sales taxes for stuff they buy off-base. Those comments about "spoiling the pure blood" are just racist crap. Ask those Koreans how they feel about Korean men defiling Philippine blood sometime.

jindodog · Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: not seoul

um, i believe he said TAXIS not taxEs cali.

ardis · Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul

CentralCali · Joined: 17 May 2007

Justin Hale · Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express

CentralCali · Joined: 17 May 2007

I'm not an apologist for anyone. Care to post how you determine your statistics? I mean, other than that's what you want them to be. I prefer to not categorize people by bigoted methodology.

Justin Hale · Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express

I pulled the percentage out of my ass as a joke intended to imply high likelihood.

Like I said, the observed hairstyles, Seoulshakin's testimony that not all were white, implies US Military as opposed to hagwon jockey, surely to goodness?