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karma police

Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Location: all roads lead to where you are...
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:47 am Post subject: Pakistan's Bhutto assassinated at rally |
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http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/12/27/bhutto.reaction/index.html
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CNN) -- World leaders reacted with shock and condemnation Thursday to the assassination of former Pakistan Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.
Benazir Bhutto died Thursday after a suicide bombing at a political rally in Rawalpindi, Pakistan.
The opposition leader died after a suicide bombing at a rally in the Pakistani city of Rawalpindi.
"I am deeply shocked by news of the latest attack in Rawalpindi which has claimed the life of Benazir Bhutto and killed at least 15 other people," said British Foreign Secretary David Miliband in a written statement. Bhutto "knew the risks of her return to campaign but was convinced that her country needed her."
Miliband called for restraint and unity in the former British colony.
President Bush, vacationing at his Texas ranch, condemned the assassination as a "cowardly act by murderous extremists."
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so sad...  |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, very sad.....
This will throw another nation into chaos and severely weaken Afghanistan's eastern frontier........
U.S. troops in that AO will have their hands full. |
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karma police

Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Location: all roads lead to where you are...
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:15 am Post subject: |
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not to mention those crude nuclear weapons they got aimed at India...
tragic, heartbreaking, crime against civilization...such a devastating loss and a totally dire day for democracy in the world's most dangerous country...
she was so cool, though. so sad...so goddam sad...  |
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blurgalurgalurga
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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About six months ago, I was watching some beeb review on the situation in paksitan. part of it was an interview with young bhutto, who was returning. The interviewer basically said, "you know, you're probably going to die for this, if you go back.'
She said, 'yup.'
. "%(@&," I said, "she's gonna get done. She's got too many enemies there."
""But why?" asked my friend. "What's the point? why does she go back, then? And why do they wanna kill her so badly?"
"I dunno" i said.
Still don't really know.
Sucks to be right. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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""But why?" asked my friend. "What's the point? why does she go back, then? |
Many people understand why you 'go back' when your country is in deep trouble. Not everyone thinks, "Ah, let someone else take care of it. I'm busy." Mrs. Bhutto knew she was risking her life to do what she could. I can't help but admire her. |
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blurgalurgalurga
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, that's a good point yata boy. But: a) is her country better off now that she's dead at the hands of whoever it was who killed her? and b) Would things have been worse had she stayed away?
I think she would say that 'both a and b above are tough questions, but it's better to go and find out, than to do nothing and wonder what might've been.'
Like the butthole surfer said..'better, billy, to regret something you have done, than something you haven't done.' |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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But: a) is her country better off now that she's dead at the hands of whoever it was who killed her? and b) Would things have been worse had she stayed away?
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I cannot agree with that. No country or group is better off because one member killed another member they didn't agree with. I believe in the rule of law. |
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blurgalurgalurga
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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I sure don't think her country is better off now that she's dead. What I meant was, she knew that she'd stand a good chance of being killed if she went back. She had to weigh the options--I was looking at it like, "ok, I'm going back--hoping to do good--but if I get killed, what happens then? How will my supporters react? Will my death cause even more strife and bloodshed?"
Of course, I support her choice to go back. Regardless. But, man, what happens now?
Sorry if I was being unclear, or seemed callous. I'm a huge admirer of the woman. |
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SeoulShakin

Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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A sad and terrible act for sure.
I just read on CNN though, that there were gunshots before the bomb went off, and that after the gunshots, she fell back into her car, then the bomb went off. They're saying now it was actually gunshot wounds that killed her.
Guns and a bomb. Someone really wanted to make sure they got her.
She was definitely a brave person to go back, knowing what fate she would probably suffer. |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I think her father and brother had also lost there lives because of politics.
Although Al Qaeda figures to be the leading suspect, Bhutto has said that the Musharaf government should be held accountable for not providing adequate security if she were killed.
Which is why many of her followers are blaming Musharaf.
It's widely suspected that Al Quaeda sympathizers have infiltrated both security and intelligence operations at high levels of the Pakistan government.
Most political analysts think that the U.S. should continue to pressure Musharaf to hold elections as scheduled - even though he now has a very slim chance of winning. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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I recall that she was a student at my Mom's Alma Mater (Radcliffe College) and was often in the Boston Globe when I was a kid in East Lynn.
She had a bad rep, though, with stories of physical abuse of political opponents.
She was pretty young, too, when I read this stuff when I was in Secondary School.
Her fam had loads of enemies for decades, eh, but she could have CHANGED Pakistan... |
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browneyedgirl

Joined: 17 Jul 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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I was sad to hear what happened to her. I knew that people wanted her dead since I first heard about her a year ago, but in places like that death threats are talked about everyday.
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philipjames
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Once again, the world is blessed with the charms of religion. ALL religion is man-made. ALL religion is based on ignorance and superstition. ALL religion contributes to the world's woes. ALL religion has passed its 'sold-by date' for anyone who has graduated from grade eight.
"Imagine no religion. Nothing to kill or die for...." |
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boatofcar

Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Location: Sheffield, UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:53 am Post subject: |
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philipjames wrote: |
Once again, the world is blessed with the charms of religion. ALL religion is man-made. ALL religion is based on ignorance and superstition. ALL religion contributes to the world's woes. ALL religion has passed its 'sold-by date' for anyone who has graduated from grade eight.
"Imagine no religion. Nothing to kill or die for...." |
Do you really have nothing better to do than criticize others' beliefs?
You're a sad little man. |
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karma police

Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Location: all roads lead to where you are...
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:54 am Post subject: |
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philipjames wrote: |
"Imagine no religion. Nothing to kill or die for...." |
it would be a pretty pointless, predictable world, then, huh? |
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