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adeline
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:04 pm Post subject: Mike Huckabee, using Klogic??? |
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Here's an article from the New York Times titled "Huckabee sees Packistan as a Reason for Border Fence" I really can't tell if he is making a really really bad attempt at making pakistan relevent to his pet issues or he really thinks they are related. Anyway, he's exposed not only that he has 0 foreign policy experience, but he can't understand data, and didn't pay attention in geography class.
DES MOINES � Mike Huckabee used the volatile situation in Pakistan Friday to make an argument for building a fence on the American border with Mexico and found himself trying to explain a series of remarks about Pakistanis and their nation.
On Thursday night he told reporters in Orlando, Fla.: �We ought to have an immediate, very clear monitoring of our borders and particularly to make sure if there�s any unusual activity of Pakistanis coming into the country.�
On Friday, in Pella, Iowa, he expanded on those remarks.
�When I say single them out I am making the observation that we have more Pakistani illegals coming across our border than all other nationalities except those immediately south of the border,� he told reporters in Pella. �And in light of what is happening in Pakistan it ought to give us pause as to why are so many illegals coming across these borders.�
In fact, far more illegal immigrants come from the Philippines, Korea, China and Vietnam, according to recent estimates from the Department of Homeland Security.
Asked how a border fence would help keep out Pakistani immigrants, Mr. Huckabee argued that airplane security was already strong, but that security at the southern United States border was dangerously weak.
�The fact is that the immigration issue is not so much about people coming to pick lettuce or make beds, it�s about someone coming with a shoulder-fired missile,� he said.
The sudden emergency in Pakistan and Mr. Huckabee�s response come at a time when he has come under increasing scrutiny from opponents for his lack of fluency in foreign policy issues, and the situation in Pakistan appeared to have challenged him.
�We have seen what happens in the Musharraf government,� Mr. Huckabee said on MSNBC. �He has told us he does not have enough control of those eastern borders near Afghanistan to be able go after the terrorists. But on the other hand, did he not want us going in, so what do we do?� Those borders are actually on the west, not the east.
Further, he offered an Orlando crowd his �apologies for what has happened in Pakistan.� His aides said later that he meant to say �sympathies.� He also said he was worried about martial law �continuing� in Pakistan, although Mr. Musharraf lifted the state of emergency on Dec. 15. His campaign told CBS News that his statement was not a blunder.
Mr. Huckabee �firmly believes that emergency rule/martial law in Pakistan, as a practical matter, should not be viewed as having been completely lifted until the restrictions imposed during that period on the press and judges are removed,� adding that Mr. Musharraf�s �overall policy� is repressive. |
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Czarjorge

Joined: 01 May 2007 Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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No, it had less to do with the fence or Pakistan, and everything to do with Pella. Pella is a dutch stronghold in central Iowa. They even serve those awful 'dutch letters'
As everyone knows, the dutch hate both Pakis and an unfenced yard. He was just playing to the crowd. |
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Don Gately

Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Location: In a basement taking a severe beating
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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I swear to god, if Romney or Huckabee gets elected I'm leaving this damn country.
My first options for relocation are:
1. Western/Mediterranean Europe
2. Australia/New Zealand/South Pacific
3. Caribbean Island Nation (Dominican Republic, most likely)
4. Central America (Costa Rica, Panama, Nicaragua)
5. Canada
But they can move around some depending on how I'm feeling on a given day. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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One of those reporters should have reached in his pocket, pulled out a ring of Pella baloney, and thrown it at Huckabee. Although that would have been a waste of excellent baloney.
Now I'm homesick for some Pella baloney and Gouda cheese.
Very few presidents have much foreign affairs experience when they come into office, but you can fairly expect them to be educated to some degree. Huckabee doesn't seem to be.
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we have more Pakistani illegals coming across our border |
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it�s about someone coming with a shoulder-fired missile |
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a. The man got over-excited with his recent surge in the polls
b. He's starting to panic as his numbers are going back down and that
c. He's decided to play the politics of fear card out of Bush's deck and hope it works for him as well as it did Bush. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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And we thought george bush was an idiot. |
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The Perfect Cup of Coffee

Joined: 17 Jun 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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No way the GOP leaders hand the keys to the party machinery over to this yokel, unless of course he gets the backing of a few huge multinational companies and some Wall Street bankers. |
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Pluto
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Don Gately wrote: |
I swear to god, if Romney or Huckabee gets elected I'm leaving this damn country.
My first options for relocation are:
1. Western/Mediterranean Europe
2. Australia/New Zealand/South Pacific
3. Caribbean Island Nation (Dominican Republic, most likely)
4. Central America (Costa Rica, Panama, Nicaragua)
5. Canada
But they can move around some depending on how I'm feeling on a given day. |
I suggest Costa Rica. They have some very beautiful women. It is very inexpensive and I've always had a dream of saving up for a retirement home there. Though I might also suggest Brazil as they are said to have the world's most beautiful women. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:00 am Post subject: |
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He's been talking to Mr. Brown toomuch. UK is the country with Pakistani problems. |
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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
And we thought george bush was an idiot. |
He is. |
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