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regicide
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 Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject: How The U.S. Police State Is Being Built Brick by Brick |
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http://lawanddisorder.org
A speech by serious and life-long Civil Liberty lawyers from the Center For Constitutional Rights.
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:31 am Post subject: |
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| A police state would be great. That's what has made China do so well now! You do what rthe f*ck we say, and if you don't, you're a dissident and we're going to execute you. Move out of this neighborhood now, we're putting an Olympic stadium here! Progress! |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, it's very distressing how low the Republican Party and its policies have brought our country. I agree with you. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| Yes, it's very distressing how low the Republican Party and its policies have brought our country. I agree with you. |
You keep talking as if there were some significant difference between the parties.
I'll remind you it was Bill Clinton who began the assault on habeas corpus when he signed the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1995.
It's time for R-EVOL-UTION! |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:20 am Post subject: |
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I don't know. But I think we have a police state right here in Daves courtesy of MOS, Gopher and Stevie:
But MOS is getting really angry, Gopher is calling the kettle black again and Stevie is hurling insults at everyone:
| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
Think Oliver Stone will do a documentary on it since he's already on the fringe of the jungle in Columbia to film Chavez' deliverance of FARC kidnap victims?
Wonder what bacasper, keane, igotthisguitar, EFLT, thepeel, and all the other looney tuners have to say about this?
I know, don't hold my breath. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:33 am Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
| But MOS is getting really angry, Gopher is calling the kettle black again and Stevie is hurling insults at everyone... |
The horror, the horror... |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| Only organizing and firm ACTION, like a General Strike, or more will begin to win back ALL we have lost most of all the Bill of Rights...here it is laid out...as clearly as anyone could want. |
Are you certain that you are speaking in the proper forum? Should you not take such calls for revolutionary or insurrectionary action away from an anonymous internet message board and into the real world...?
What is your purpose in posting here, again...? |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Your purpose?
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Chavez has friends in high places, so we probably know what some of them think about the red-shirt-wearing-charlatan's glorious and heroic Revolution...
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
| Gopher wrote: |
| regicide wrote: |
| Only organizing and firm ACTION, like a General Strike, or more will begin to win back ALL we have lost most of all the Bill of Rights ... here it is laid out ... as clearly as anyone could want. |
Are you certain that you are speaking in the proper forum? Should you not take such calls for revolutionary or insurrectionary action away from an anonymous internet message board and into the real world ...?
What is your purpose in posting here, again...? |
Your purpose? |
Working for the man ... |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| you think the internet is anonymous? how quaint. patriot act laws have already been breeched on this thread. as with any police state, certain folks are just gonna have to wait for a visit. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:28 am Post subject: |
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| mistermasan wrote: |
you think the internet is anonymous?
how quaint. patriot act laws have already been breeched on this thread. as with any police state, certain folks are just gonna have to wait for a visit. |
Yo Mis-tah Mason ...
Which laws? Breached? Exactly what's that supposed to mean?
2 + 2 = 5 "laws"?
Are you trying to tell us that now, clear across the planet, the new-con "good guys" & their psycho-phant minions are actively hunting down any one who dares to challenge their criminal global agenda?
Ain't that a shame.
"And by their fruits ye shall know them ..."
Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation
1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil
2. Become incredulous and indignant
3. Create rumor mongers
4. Use a straw man
5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling, ridicule
6. Hit and Run
7. Question motives
8. Invoke authority
9. Play Dumb
10. Associate opponent charges with old news
11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions
12. Enigmas have no solution
13. Alice in Wonderland Logic
14. Demand complete solutions
15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions
16. Vanish evidence and witnesses
17. Change the subject
18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad
19. Ignore facts, demand impossible proofs
20. False evidence
21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor
22. Manufacture a new truth
23. Create bigger distractions
24. Silence critics
25. Vanish
Eight Traits of The Disinformationalist
1. Avoidance
2. Selectivity
3. Coincidental
4. Teamwork
5. Anti-conspiratorial
6. Artificial Emotions
7. Inconsistent
8. Newly Discovered: Time Constant
http://www.ominous-valve.com/blog/25ways.html |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
| Your purpose? |
Mostly, it's like going to the zoo. Mostly. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| regicide wrote: |
| Your purpose? |
Mostly, it's like going to the zoo. Mostly. |
You are avoiding the JFK issue with disinformation tactics. Your high opinion of government is not founded in fact. All you need do is examine the back wound and any number of other examples, and you will see a pattern of of a cover up that has been long exposed.
Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics?
Documents show that Warren Commission member Congressman Gerald Ford pressed the panel to change its description of the wound and place it higher in Kennedy�s body. Ford wanted the wording changed to: �A bullet had entered the back of his neck slightly to the right of the spine.� The panel�s final version was: �A bullet had entered the base of the back of his neck slightly to the right of the spine.�
The arrow in the photograph below shows where the bullet had to pass through Kennedy in order to conform to the preposterous Single Bullet Theory, when the bullet actually entered Kennedy's back.
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
| You are... |
I come here to exchange views on current events with posters like On the Other Hand, Kuros, Ya-ta Boy, Big_Bird, Manner of Speaking, Octavius Hite, Pligannease, McGarrett, and several others whose names escape me. Like a continuous conversation at a reception.
Igotthisguitar entertains me.
The rest strike me as freakish -- especially you and BLT. You actually believe you are here passionately fighting to accomplish something in the real world, National-Enquirer-style, too, with sensationalist, allegation-driven weapons.
Mostly, then, I find you stupid. Mostly. |
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