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Joe Boxer



Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Return Jones wrote:
Joe, Good to see you're still in Korea. We bumped into each other in COEX a few years ago. We were only loosely acquainted back at SMU in 92-96, but it was still good to see a familiar face from home. It also turned out we had a few friends in common from the Suncheon gang in the 2001-2002 days, too. Might see you someday out and about in Bundang. Keep up the good work!


I'll get back to you when I earn pm privileges!

(Editted for spelling. I can never remember how to spell "privilege"!)
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to train a bit as well...but years ago now.

Sounds like U have an interesting story developing here for Boxing monthly or ring magazine.
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MissSeoul



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America

PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Boxer wrote:


Thanks! You can check my website here



Very interesting !
Your wedding pictures look great and you got a beautiful girl !
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Joe Boxer



Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
I used to train a bit as well...but years ago now.

Sounds like U have an interesting story developing here for Boxing monthly or ring magazine.


I took five years off from the sport, myself, before training for my pro debut. Make sure to contact me if you'd like to make your comeback here in Korea.
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Joe Boxer



Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MissSeoul wrote:
Joe Boxer wrote:


Thanks! You can check my website here



Very interesting !
Your wedding pictures look great and you got a beautiful girl !


Thanks for checking out the pics! We had a blast getting the studio photos done. Her looks make-up for my lack thereof, so we balance-out Smile
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lawyertood



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ

PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my female co-worker is just getting started in boxing and has got her license. I am just curious whether you would be in violation of E-2 visa regs if you fought professionally, ie. for money?
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Joe Boxer



Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lawyertood wrote:
my female co-worker is just getting started in boxing and has got her license. I am just curious whether you would be in violation of E-2 visa regs if you fought professionally, ie. for money?


I'm assuming she's Korean? I haven't heard of any foreign female fighters here in Korea.

I know of plenty of foreign teachers that have been licensed, but there have only been three (including myself) that have competed for money.
The KBC rulebook states that it is required that any foreign fighter have an E-2 visa. On the surface, that seems to be in direct violation of a teaching visa.

In my case, I was licensed (for boxing) when I had an E-2. Later, I fought three times on a visitor's visa, and then twice more on my marriage visa.
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fusionbarnone



Joined: 31 May 2004

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on following your dream. I retired after a dislocated shoulder(the british heavy weight champ lent me his "special" boots and the NZ 4 times champ lent me his lucky shirt) during the 3rd round of a medal fight(amateur). Never went pro. but If circumstances had been better I would've continued. I loved it so much.

For my first fight, I was given a phony name the Irish gym owner thought up in order to get me past the ring doctor as I wasn't licensed at that time. Got paid 10 bucks survived the midd. weight bout but, only just, after fighting in a match organized in a bar.

Years later, the owner of the gym was eventually evicted out of the city gym by the boxing association. He came back with his two sons(both title boxers) and axed in the door of the gym. The two security guards decided to leave after their Rockweiler died of a heart attack.

I'm in the states now and seriously thinking about training for K1 as my experience is in many types of martial arts. At the time I was learning the "sweet science" all out expressionism didn't exist.

Good luck
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Joe Boxer



Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good stories!

As you know, K-1 is HUGE in Korea. I would think that this would be a good place to pursue that.

If you do return here to S.K., contact me again and let me talk you into a boxing comeback Smile
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harryh



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: south of Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Joe,

Sounds an interesting story to be a pro' in Korea. Who was your hardest apponent? Woo Yong-Gi, Lee Min-Goo, Lee Jong-Bae, Um Young-Don or Ahn Ji-Hyung?

I fought as an amateur in London for a couple of years in the late 80s (6-2 record). It's the hardest game in the world, trying to put in the amount of hard work required and managing a full time job.

Best of luck in the future.
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Joe Boxer



Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

harryh wrote:
Hi Joe,

Sounds an interesting story to be a pro' in Korea. Who was your hardest apponent? Woo Yong-Gi, Lee Min-Goo, Lee Jong-Bae, Um Young-Don or Ahn Ji-Hyung?


You did your homework Smile!
Well, since you asked, Um Young-don was the toughest guy I've EVER fought, in my whole life! Neither of us wanted to lose, and we gave each other standing eight-counts. By the end of the fight, we were both a bloody mess (and I mean "bloody" in the literal sense, not in the British sense Smile )

The fight could have gone either way, but I was lucky enough to get the decision.

harryh wrote:
I fought as an amateur in London for a couple of years in the late 80s (6-2 record).

That's pretty good! British fighters are known to be really tough. As for British pros, I used to like watching Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, and Naseem Hamed before they retired. Now I like Joe Calzaghe, Ricky Hatton, and Herbie Hide.

btw, PM me if you're looking for a gym in your area!
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a boxer-briefs man. Where to find a good a good pair of western brand boxer-briefs instead of this Korean poorly made $***. Very Happy
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bjonothan



Joined: 29 Apr 2003
Location: All over the place

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice story mate.
Your style is quite nice. I noticed you got a bit stuck when "old matey" was putting a few into you though. I am sure your trainer tells you to keep on the move more. It is easier said than done when you have got someone landing a whole bunch of punches into you.
I thought about doing what you are doing when I first moved to korea, but in the end I just couldn't be farked. I used to just beat up the odd woman basher or asshole I ran into Laughing
So, full credit to you. I will be watching your site from time to time to see what happens.
Best of luck mate!
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Joe Boxer



Joined: 25 Dec 2007
Location: Bundang, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bjonothan wrote:
Nice story mate.
Your style is quite nice. I noticed you got a bit stuck when "old matey" was putting a few into you though. I am sure your trainer tells you to keep on the move more.


You've got a good eye, catching those couple shots I got tagged with. Most people that see the video don't catch them.

I had been criticized for having a "hitting and running" style, so I wanted to try standing toe-to-toe with "old matey" Smile . I'm still trying to find a nice balance between the two styles.
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bjonothan



Joined: 29 Apr 2003
Location: All over the place

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you do quite nicely mate. When I was boxing, I was taught that footwork is 99 percent of the fighter's ability. I think that anyone that knocks you for moving around needs to look at the whole reason you are in the ring to begin with. The idea is to hit and try not to be hit.

Fly like a butterfly, sting like a bee as Ali used to say. If anyone says anything about it again, ask them to step in for a few rounds and show you how to stand and take the punches.

In my opinion, the more hits you take over a lifetime, the more likely you are to get Alzheimers or something like that later in life.

You have nice style and a quite promising career if you stick to what you think is right. I wish you luck and hope to see more videos of you winning fights in the future mate.
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