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[Suwoner10]

Seems like as far as CBC's go, we're down to having to make a declaratory statement, and apparently they can be an internet CBC, website provided by New York Bar guy.

This is all so predictable...

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MODS! Make this a sticky!

[R. S. Refugee]

[Suwoner10]

Misunderstanding of New E-2 Visa

By Lee Dong-wook



He also argues that it may take up to seven months to get his criminal record if he uses the FBI services. Thanks to my personal experience as a member of the New York bar and with experience working at an American court and the Korean Ministry of Justice, I can say he was wrong or at least very misguided.

There are several ways he can get his criminal record from Korea. Other than using the FBI service, he can use the following options:

(1). If he contacts a local police station by fax or by mail, he can get the documents sooner and notarized at the U.S. Embassy in Korea.

(2). If he is uncomfortable with the local police station, he can use a privately-run criminal check system, for example an online site (http://www.criminalbackgroundrecords.com), although he may be charged up to $59.95.

He needs to have the documents notarized in his embassy. However, in the process of notarization, he can be charged if he commits perjury.


For citizens of other countries where such Web sites do not exist, we are also in close contact with other embassies and can find reliable alternatives. For example, if there are other regulations that make it difficult to get a criminal record in a short period of time, we are willing to provide a grace period with a sufficiently reliable explanatory note from the relevant embassies here in Korea.


Secondly, I would like to mention Mr. Brian Deutsch's Dec. 8 article titled ``About Foreign Teachers.'' At the end of his article he abruptly mentions: ``And lately, I have the impression that Korean officials are actually trying to repel all its [native English] teachers."

To this argument, I would like to say that he was wrong, very wrong. If we really wanted to force all teachers away from this country, we would not have had the meetings with consular officers. We would not consider having grace periods for the E-2 teaching visa holders.

We would not accept the declaratory affidavit notarized by the embassy as a temporary measure till the true and accurate criminal background record arrives.


Lee Dong-wook is a member of the New York Bar and the American Immigration Lawyers Association and currently working with the Korean Ministry of Justice. He can be reached at [email protected]."

(http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2007/12/160_16182.html)

[bassexpander]

I think they're all full of shit -- this guy included. They just wanted to look tough to the Korean people. Probably has something to do with elections.

A bunch of grandstanding for the newspapers. Now they're backing-down after realizing that all of their smoke-blowing could backfire and hurt them more than it every could have helped.

Make it a REAL background check. What a bunch of pussies.

[idonojacs]

What's wrong with this picture?

If they don't do it right and they give us a visa to teachee in Korea, sooner or later they are going to realize they didn't do it right.

So, what happens next?

Same nonsense as validating diplomas: We will be asked to provide additional documentation that we are not, and never have been, criminals. And we will be ordered to produce this proof while here in Korea within one hour, because our co-teacher will not have read the order sooner.

And then three months later, they will decide that the previous documentation was not sufficient, and will order us to produce more documentation. And two months later, and so on, and so for.... At some point, we will be ordered to produce some sort of proof that will be virtually impossible to produce in Korea, or under any circumstances, like logging into our university website to produce proof we have a diploma.

If the web CRCs are satsifactory, then Korea should do them. Because if we produce a printout, we will be accused of lying. And the fact is, anyone could alter the printout. But if Korea does it themselves, they can be sure it is authentic. (As long as the Korean bureaucrat doesn't somehow screw it up, and this non-governmental business doesn't screw it up.)

The only way to get a guaranteed accurate CRC is for the Korean government to do the fingerprints and submit the searches to an official government agency of the home country or government-approved CRC company, themselves.




Earth to Korea:




DO IT RIGHT, AND DO IT ONCE.


Please?

[mehamrick]

Whats really funny is that the website that they listed doesnt even do a full search. It hits most major cities but if you lived in a rural area it would not find you.

I think this guy is also forgetting that if your inside the system you get information much faster than if your outside the system.

Also him being a lawyer in NY he should know that nothing regarding personal records gets released by fax or mail.. Not in my state anyways...

But props to the guy for at least saying something...

[some waygug-in]

What this is ....is a typical government response to a new, un-researched and idiotic idea. Governments back home do this too, they announce some jack -arsed plan without thinking about the consequences, then when people start to complain and point out the various problems with the plan.... they send out some goofball like this lawyer dude to try and pretend that they knew what they were doing.

No problem here folks, see our lawyer dude can make sense of it all, so it must be just you dumb wayguk-ins who are too ignorant to figure it out.



In other words, pretend there is no problem and hope it goes away.


By the way, this has been discussed in the "missundertanding the E2 visa"
thread, where people (including myself) have pointed out the various flaws in this guy's arguments.

[bassexpander]

Does the guy make money somehow if you use that site?

That's what I have to wonder.

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[idonojacs]

some waygug-in:

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[idonojacs]

cruisemonkey:

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