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The official Fedor/Hong-man, Yarennoka, 2007 Dynamite thread
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was obvious to me that Choi does have an overpowering strength advantage.

Whether you know what to make of it or not, the special rules were, in the opinion of many, an unfair advantage for Fedor.

The obvious fact of Choi's inexperience in MMA should have made giving him such a handicap unnecessary.

I'm pretty sure that Fedor wouldn't have charged in with bull rush the way he did if he knew that his ribs could be cracked by a big knee strike.
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Jarome_Turner



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:

I'm pretty sure that Fedor wouldn't have charged in with bull rush the way he did if he knew that his ribs could be cracked by a big knee strike.


I'm pretty sure he would have, regardless. His game plan was clearly to get Choi to the ground and work from his guard. Choi would have had the advantage standing. I would argue that working from his guard on his back was a more desireable position than being on top. With Choi's 130 lb. weight and 14 inch height advantage, it would have been very difficult to lay on top of him and try to submit from there. Fedor, obviously very comfortable in his guard, had Choi right where he wanted him the whole time.
Even if knees had of been allowed, Choi didn't get the chance to land any. Both times Fedor rushed in, he immediatly secured a body lock, then took it to the ground. Once on the ground, Choi looked like a fish out of water. If you watch most of Choi's K-1 fights, he lands most of his knees from the clinch. He never had a chance to clinch against Fedor, and obviously his takedown defence wasn't as good as people thought.
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normalcyispasse



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really do think it was Emelianenko's strategy to work Choi from the guard. I don't think it'd be very effective trying to G&P Hong-man; I mean, the guy has such long arms he could strike back easily enough and probably just roll you off. If you think about it, the only truly viable positions from which to work would be the north-south, guard, or back mount. At least, that's what I'd guess based on my experience.

Okay, disallowing knees did give Fedor an extra edge -- one he may or may not have needed. Then again, with the HUGE weight differential (147lb.!) I can only believe that it's just a fair way to even the field a bit.
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