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[Tiger Beer]

Anyone is welcome to add anything.

From what I can tell, Huckabee is going to be VERY popular in Iowa. Voters in New Hampshire seem to be highly favoring Romney and McCain though. Huckabee isn't resonating as well in NH.

For Dems, Clinton seems to have a much stronger lead in NH over Iowa - where it seems like Obama and Edwards have a strong shot as well.

Then there is Ron Paul. Who knows with that guy. Iowa will say a lot, and NH will say a lot more.

What do the rest of you think on NH next?

[Ya-ta Boy]

I don't think any candidate will drop out, no matter how badly he does in Iowa, so the selection will be the same. New Hampshire is only 5 days later. I think the people of New Hampshire are politically astute and most won't be affected by where a candidate finishes in Iowa.

Any candidate who finishes low in both states will have trouble raising money to continue, so the weaker ones will begin to drop out by the end of this month.

I think Huckabee is already fading. He may end up nothing more than a regional candidate. I think Guliani is also weakening.

[igotthisguitar]

ELRON - VOXEO:
The Israeli Defense Firm That Tallies the Iowa Caucus
By Christopher Bollyn
31 December 2007

http://www.bollyn.com/index/?id=10371

The Iowa caucus is only a few days away and the nation's attention will be directed to the results, which signify the beginning of the U.S. presidential race. But does anyone watch who tallies the results of the Iowa caucus?

The Iowa caucus results were tallied in 2004 by a company that is headed by a man whose company was bought by Elron Electronics, the Israeli defense firm. I suspect that it will be the same this year. Don't expect to see any grassroots political activists doing the tally in Iowa. The Israeli defense establishment takes care of that part of the American "democratic" election process.

VOXEO
In the summer of 2004, I first learned that a foreign and out-of-state company using Interactive Voice Response (IVR) technology tallied the Iowa caucus results.

The system used to tally the 2004 Iowa caucus results was provided by a company called Voxeo, which was apparently based in Orlando, Florida. (Yellow flag goes up in the mind of those familiar with Orlando and electronic vote fraud history. See Bollyn article on Yang below.)

The calls from the nearly 2,000 caucus centers in Iowa went to a Voxeo call center in Atlanta, Georgia.

On January 31, 2005, I wrote to Michelle Bauer, Iowa's Secretary of State with some questions about the use of Voxeo, a foreign company located in Florida, to tally the results of the Iowa caucus:

Subject: How was the Iowa Caucus Tallied?

Dear Sirs,

When I visited the headquarters of the Democratic Party in Des Moines last summer, I learned that the tally of the Iowa caucus had been "out-sourced" to a company in Atlanta, Georgia.

What this means is that the tallying of the Iowa caucus results was done over the telephone, using the touch-tone buttons, to enter the results from each caucus location �

I am interested in how this was done, and why. Why did the Democratic Party allow the crucial tally of the caucus results to be done by a company in Atlanta? Don't they trust their own math skills?

Can any of you provide any information about this matter?

Kind regards,
Christopher Bollyn

A person named Mike Milligan wrote back on behalf of Secretary of State Bauer:

Mike Milligan <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear Christopher:

The Secretary of State forwarded me the email you sent to then on Monday, January 31, 2004 [sic] regarding the Iowa Caucuses.

Unfortunately you either received some incorrect information in your travels or are confused. The Iowa Democratic Party completed all of the caucus night tabulations in Iowa, in the Des Moines/Polk County Convention Center, which was the Caucus night HQ. In fact, our tech staff wrote the software that tabulated the results.

To answer your second to last question, we feel we have a comfortable grasp of mathematics.

Sincerely,

MWM

Mike Milligan, Executive Director
Iowa Democratic Party
(515) 244-7292 ex. 676

I wrote this note back to Mr. Milligan:

Dear Mr. Milligan,
I am responding to you about how the caucus results for the Iowa Democratic Party were tallied on the night of the nation's first caucus. After checking my sources, I can assure you that it is correct that an out-of-state telephone/computer system tallied the Iowa precinct results.

The system used was provided by Voxeo Corporation based in Orlando, Florida. The calls went from Iowa to a call center in Atlanta, Georgia.

See: http://www.voxeo.com/

This information was first provided to me last August by John McCormally, Communications Director for the Iowa Democratic Party in Des Moines, Iowa.

Today I called Voxeo (800) 305-5771 in Orlando and although I didn't go into detail, the receptionist confirmed that Voxeo had conducted the telephone tally of the Iowa Democratic Caucus results.

How is it that you don't know that?

McCormally told me that chairmen were selected in all 1,993 precincts and these chairmen called in on touch-tone phones and after giving their PIN number, were able to enter the results from their precinct using the touch-tone number pad.

I'm not going to go into great detail at this point, but this procedure of using an out-of-state computer company to tally the precinct results for the Iowa Democratic Caucus lacks the transparency and openness that one might expect in this exercise in grass-roots poll.

Clearly, if someone wanted to adjust the results, it would be the easiest thing to do to do it through this computer system in Orlando, Florida. The Democrats in Iowa would never be aware of it, regardless of their math skills, unless the paper results were carefully audited in an open and honest manner.

Christopher Bollyn

THE ISRAELIS & VOXEO
Now, who really is Voxeo, and why are the Iowa caucus results tallied by them? I don't know if the 2008 Iowa results will be tallied in the same way, but I wouldn't doubt it.

Voxeo is headed by Jonathan Taylor, who is the company's President and CEO. This is what his Voxeo webpage says about him:

Jonathan combined his experience in both business operations and technology innovation to found Voxeo in 1999. Under his guidance, Voxeo has seen triple-digit revenue growth for four consecutive years and has been profitable since January, 2004. Prior to Voxeo, Jonathan founded and helped bring three additional software and infrastructure service companies to profitability.

From 1995 to 1997, Jonathan was the founder and President of InterResearch and Development Group (IRdg), Inc. IRdg created and licensed iPost - the first internet powered OEM unified messaging solution - to leading telecommunications providers including Ericsson, Motorola and Unisys. IRdg was acquired by Elron Electronic Industries (Nasdq: ELRN) subsidiary MediaGate in 1997.

There you have it. Jonathan Taylor's company, which he founded, was taken over by Elron Electronic Industries, the Israeli defense high tech company:

In its early days, Elron focused on defense, particularly electronics and avionics, as well as the emerging medical and technology sectors. In 1966, Elron founded Elbit, which combined the expertise of the Ministry of Defense-Research Institute in special computer design with Elron's experience in electronic product design, manufacture and management.

Source: http://www.elron.net/default.asp?PageID=203

This is important information that Americans need to know and which they will not find in the Zionist-controlled media in the United States. It needs to be understood that the entire election process in the United States is a fraud. More than that, it is a fraud that is being perpetrated by the Israeli defense establishment on the na�ve and gullible American public.

The sine qua non of an honest and transparent election process is the open counting of the votes by the voters themselves in each polling station in front of the open eyes of other citizens and members of the media. Any compromise in this most fundamental and essential process which acts to remove the citizenry from the vote-counting process simply cannot be accepted.

This is what Americans MUST get back to, in every polling station in the nation: paper ballots that are hand counted in front of the public.

[Tiger Beer]

Did that last post have any reference whatsoever to New Hampshire and it's Primary?

Or was it just a random post connected to anything with the word "Iowa" it it's title??

[caniff]

[pesawattahi]

The dirty Jews developed many parts in the Nokia phones and the new Quad 4 Intel processors. Watch out they are monitoring your every move and know all your pesonal data. They even know about that time when you and your cousin touched pen1ses. They are coming for you!!

On a side note I thnk it is absurd how the media has hyped the first 2 caucuses up so much its as if it is already decided. There are 48 other states you know. I'm about sick of how everything on the news has been hyped up so much it is like some sort of action movie

[caniff]

Hey P, can you do something about your 'location'? It's screwing up the page.

Thankyouverymuch...

[Ya-ta Boy]

That's the FOURTH copy of IGTG's post so far. He seems to be putting it in every thread.

[mistermasan]

well...if the tabulation is rigged, the will of the people is subverted. kinda makes the whole process moot and further entrenches the ownership folks.

[Ya-ta Boy]

In personal protest to IGTG's methods, I will not engage in a discussion of this topic at this time.

[igotthisguitar]

[igotthisguitar]

[mistermasan]

the same folks who counted in florida in '00, ohio and n.mexico in '04. it is not a matter of "if" the process will be subverted but simply "when".

fixing elections is a fascinating, fine art and IIRC stalin had a great quote on such.

[bacasper]

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[chronicpride]

A Brief History of the Iowa-to-New Hampshire Bounce