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Arthur Dent

Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Location: Kochu whirld
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:46 am Post subject: |
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I would be happy simply to encounter Koreans who lived outside their cultural box. Not that one can reasonably expect this, given their history and present reality (educational institutions and cultural/social imperatives being what they are).
The only reason, it seems to me, that the subject comes up, is that otherwise, on the surface, Korean seems to have all the other prerequisites that we recognize from our own cultures; modernity on the surface, wealth, democracy, etc. As laudable as the belief in preserving and caring for the environment is, as a philosophy, it does not necessarily mean an individual can think laterally or independently. This requires free time as well as at least some degree of solitude.
Knowing - being educated - about any particular area of knowledge and acting on it are two different things. That being said, I am much less than certain that we have done as well as we could be doing in our respective cultures. Perhaps then, it is a matter of how much weight we place on any one issue, or are able to, according to our respective cultures.
Though I am no expert by any means, I have yet to witness any act of independence by any Korean, by the lights of my own cultural values. And why should I expect this? It would be unreasonable.
Where I do object, and wrongly as well no doubt, is when a particular element from another culture - for example, "the West" (what does this truly mean anymore? Shouldn't modernity and forward-thinking replace this term? Flawed as well of course, but they at least have the benefit of being free from mere geography) is usurped in a way that misrepresents its original form or purpose. I know, I know, we are hardly free from that ourselves - and interesting that we sometimes - some of us - expect better from other cultures when they work with new or imported ideas. Perhaps this is because, in our history, original thinkers also appropriated new ideas and built something original with them. And something we viewed as having substance as well as a visible effect.
All I know is, in acting as an extra in a music video, which seemed fairly provocative by Korean standards - and somewhat rock n'roll because of that - I saw little rebellion or even a hint of an outgoing nature in the performers offstage. I had falsely expected it........Why should I have?
Though there are doubtless fringe groups in Korea of varying natures, they are certainly less than easy to spot. And they will rarely take the form we expect if we view them from our own cultural perspective. Oddly, I have witnessed it within other cultures to some extent. But perhaps the act or idea of rebellion - purely for the sake of rebellion - is just another form of cultural imperialism, unless it leads to meaningful, productive change.
I needn't define that. I will leave that to each of you.... |
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nicholas_chiasson

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Location: Samcheok
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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I can't even meet any standard-normal-koreans. In fact I never knew it was possible to live in a country for 5 months AND NEVER MEET ANYONE AT ALL! |
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Suwoner10

Joined: 10 Dec 2007
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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if i wanted chicks who don't shave, i'll go to east germany |
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ardis
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:26 am Post subject: |
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kiwiduncan wrote: |
Tjames426 wrote: |
Why would they need an alternate lifestyle? This is a Confucian Culture.
I love it, trying to force your cultural convictions upon the helpless natives. |
I'm not. I'm simply hoping to meet locals who already realize that mainstream Korean society is materialistic, crass and environmentally unsustainable. |
You haven't met any Koreans who think that Korea is materialistic? I made a good friend in Korea--she studies law at Kongguk--and she is pretty damn open-minded. She can totally see the weirdness of the Korean culture, even though she is proud of her nationality. It's a good balance. I don't know any hardcore vegans or anything, though--the most "alternative lifestyle" friends I have is a group of aspiring filmmakers from Daejon. |
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alibuch
Joined: 18 Apr 2007
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Most of my Korean friends criticize the shallowness and materialism of Korean culture... so I don't think they're all so wrapped up in themselves and buying things. |
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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Location: New Zealand
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kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if you noticed this on another thread, but here's a link to a group of Korean vegetarians:
http://cafe.naver.com/ululul.cafe |
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