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Canada flooding U.S. with ecstasy: drug czar

 
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:08 am    Post subject: Canada flooding U.S. with ecstasy: drug czar Reply with quote

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VANCOUVER - A resurgence of the use of ecstasy by young Americans is being fuelled by Canadian producers smuggling the illegal designer chemical drug - which is increasingly laced with crystal meth - into the U.S., according to the White House drug czar.

John Walters, director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, is warning Americans to be aware of a "dangerous new drug threat coming from Canada."

In a news release distributed in the U.S. and Canada, Walters warned that ecstasy - a manufactured pill that triggers the feel-good brain chemicals serotonin and dopamine - is becoming popular again.

"Historic progress against ecstasy availability and use is in jeopardy of being rolled back by Canadian criminal organizations," Walters said in the release. And that's "alarming for the youth of both Canada and the United States."

He said ecstasy usage rose in the 1990s in the rave culture, where users took the "hug drug" and danced for hours, but its use dropped in the early 2000s.

But a recent 40 per cent spike in use between 2005 and 2006, with one-third of users being under 18, worries Walters.

"These increases coincide with increased trafficking of ecstasy from Canada," said his office.

The number of ecstasy pills seized at the Canada-U.S. border grew tenfold in three years, to 5.5 million in 2006 from 570,000 in 2003, it said.

"He's just stating the obvious," he said. "We're recognized as a threat country."

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=4f6bf46f-6ee8-4b57-87b5-556586481d29&k=85586
Maybe America needs a "Plan Canada" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Colombia) to help those darn liberals down there stop sending up their drugs.
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Czarjorge



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No wonder Canucks are so happy with their country.
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Justin Hale



Joined: 24 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since Ecstasy is less dangerous than peanuts and fishing, my only concern is why peanuts and fishing are not strictly prohibited.

It's up to the mindless masses to make a choice between 1 and 2:

1. Ban fishing and peanuts and arrest any person in possession of peanutss and/or fishing
2. Make ecstasy as legal as fishing and peanuts

http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/ecstasy/dangers.htm
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus. Less than peanuts or fishing.

I love E. Every time I've taken it I've had a blast. Rock shows, djs, walks, dinner parties. Always a good time. Can't say the same for booze. Not by a long shot.

The problem is that when you are buying from a "dude" you don't know if what you are taking is actually E. If it were legal and the industry appropriately regulated, I'm quite sure it could be made almost perfectly safe. But no, conservatives hate fun and fear sex so we get drug laws.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:49 am    Post subject: Re: Canada flooding U.S. with ecstasy: drug czar Reply with quote

Drug Czar John Walters - RIGGGHT...home brews of meth and ectasy are coming from OUTSIDE the border. The countless upon countless meth labs in just about every small little rural town in America has nothing to do with the problem.

I guess the Drug Czar has to write about somewhere, would be boring and embarrassing to blame all those nice rural American people from coast-to-coast who are ravishing their own country with the stuff.

But I guess if he admitted it was predominately domestically being produced, he'd be quickly out of a job for having no idea how to go about dealing with the problem.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:29 am    Post subject: Re: Canada flooding U.S. with ecstasy: drug czar Reply with quote

NEWSFLASH !!!

The highest concentration of thugs & criminals is almost always found within the ranks of government itself.

Wanna get to the bottom of this "problem"? Follow the money.

thepeel wrote:
Maybe America needs a "Plan Canada" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Colombia) to help those darn liberals down there stop sending up their drugs.


They've already got it. Misc. US law enforcement agencies & rogue military have been operating in Canada for years. These sort of stories are floated out in front of the larger public with the aim of better fuelling the "Empire AmeriKa" agenda.

Remember that "once upon a time" thing called national sovereignty?

Probably not.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:38 am    Post subject: Re: Canada flooding U.S. with ecstasy: drug czar Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:


....those nice rural American people from coast-to-coast who are ravishing their own country with the stuff.


I think you mean "ravaging", but I don't know as I haven't been home in a few years.

And although I've taken E a few times in the past, I hear regular use can really screw with people. I'm been told that, over time, it inhibits seratonin uptake when the person isn't under the influence.

Edit: I checked (because I respect TB's brain), and a secondary definition of 'ravish' is to rape or violate. So I guess it could be used in the way that he did.
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Czarjorge



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm so not anti-drug, but E? Do you know what that does to your brain? That might explain thepeel's generally sour attitude.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any drug that can be made in the basement, then it's your own culture/country with the problem. Not the other country.

Colombia with cocaine, Afghanistan with heroin, etc. You need certain plants, etc.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't E about the same as meth, lsd, etc., where anyone who knows how to make it, basically can make it?
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Justin Hale



Joined: 24 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Czarjorge babbled

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I'm so not anti-drug, but E? Do you know what that does to your brain? That might explain thepeel's generally sour attitude.


But....


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No compelling evidence exists that taking a single c.125mg dose of MDMA a few times or so a year is likely to cause any long-term harm to the user's mental or physical health


http://www.ecstasy.co.uk/#mdmatox

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MDMA may be neurotoxic and its use may involve the risk of brain damage (The evidence to date is inconclusive and thorough studies of humans are needed before a definitive neurotoxicity claim can be made).


http://www.drugscope.org.uk/resources/mediaguide/ecstasymyths.htm

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The acute toxic effects of MDMA are well documented by hundreds of case reports of adverse events in illicit users. Considering how many people use MDMA, serious acute adverse events seem rare


http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_neurotoxicity1.shtml

E is relatively benign.
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