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Who would benefit if we didn't have to do the 'Visa run'?

 
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Basil Brush



Joined: 13 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:23 am    Post subject: Who would benefit if we didn't have to do the 'Visa run'? Reply with quote

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In addition, to improve the quality of foreign schools, the government plans to issue, renew or adjust visas for teachers at foreign schools at the request of educational academies. Foreign teachers will be able to get visas without being forced to leave the country to obtain them at Korean embassies overseas.



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MOJ Then pan down to 'Whats news', Foreign Investors to Get 3-Year Visa (2003.11.10).
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First and foremost, hogwon owners, who would no longer have to foot the bill roundtrip tickets to Japan.

But teachers would also benefit by being spared the hassle of having to leave the country. The visa run doesn't sound like much fun in most cases.

Immigration creating a win-win situation? Say it ain't so...
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 'first-time visa run' (i.e.- the law which requires one who is switching from a tourist to a working visa to exit and re-enter the country) is a fact of life in many (perhaps even most?) countries. It's not going to change anytime soon.

I suppose one could hope that eventually Korean Immigration will see the light regarding second or third work visas... I've said this here before- if enough of the right people whispered "Heck, the Japanese are able to do it, but we in Korea can't? WTF?" to their contacts at Immigration, I'm sure things would start changing (but of course it goes without saying that foreign teachers are not the 'right people').
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't need to do a visa run. Basically the only benefit of having a F-2-1 visa status.
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kylehawkins2000



Joined: 08 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically if seems like the law-makers have decided to cave-in to the disorganized Hogwan owners who refuse to plan more than a month or so in advance for their personnel needs.

I've seen enough examples of businesses doing things at the last minute in a half-a$$ed manner........

How many of your hogwans knew they'd need to hire a new teacher at a certain time but didn't bother to start looking until a few weeks before the date they were needed?
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if the school is paying, it's not a bad deal getting a free short trip to Japan, especially if you're going overnight, not the one-day deal, but even that's not too bad. You get to see Japan, albeit briefly...and that's pretty cool. If you go to Osaka you can see just about everything as far as shopping. Fukuoka isn't as exciting, but there's a few things to do. I stopped into a bunch of electronic stores and marvelled at some computers I've never seen before. Also, I picked up some cool souveniers for my friends and family. Not to mention the trip gets you a day or two off from work. But I do agree, I wish we could own our own visas like in Japan and be able to work where we want and quit if we're getting shafted without worry of a release letter.
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waterbaby



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shawner88 wrote:
I wish we could own our own visas like in Japan and be able to work where we want and quit if we're getting shafted without worry of a release letter.


I agree with Shawner. The visa run is no big deal to me, really... though having said that, I will probably get around to geting my F2 visa before I have to do another one.

I do think that if we English teachers own our visas as they do in Japan and Immigration does away with the Letter of Release, that would be the first step to seeing major changes in conditions at hagwons (for a start). Imagine this... your boss hasn't paid you? You start contacting other hagwons & sending out your resume, no problem that your visa doesn't expire for another 6 months! Too often people feel tied to their jobs because without a LOR, they're basically screwed.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 7:28 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

I hope it doesn't change. I liked the free trip to beautiful Japan. I want to go again.
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