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Rockwell Bergstrom
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Faunaki
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| I think some of pollution comes from China so you should blame them too. |
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Rockwell Bergstrom
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| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Without a doubt some of it comes from China. I'm curious about how much comes from China and how much of the pollution is generated here.
How depressing it would be to find out that no matter what is done here, it matters little compared to what happens in China.
The change from ten years ago here is breathtaking (pun intended)! |
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Scotticus
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:02 am Post subject: |
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| Rockwell Bergstrom wrote: |
Without a doubt some of it comes from China. I'm curious about how much comes from China and how much of the pollution is generated here.
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I've read articles about how the dust and pollution from China adversely affects the air quality on the American/Canadian West Coast. It's such a gorgeous cycle of destruction. We demand cheap products, China then produces said cheap products, which causes stupifying amounts of pollution, which then is carried across the ocean back to the very country that helped start the cycle in the first place. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Yeah, only Americans buy these products.
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:12 am Post subject: Re: Holy Smokes! That ain't fog out there?! |
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Yeah, and Lee Myung Bak wants to f'in reduce gas taxes. Bush-lite he is. |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:56 am Post subject: Re: Holy Smokes! That ain't fog out there?! |
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| Bush-lite he is. |
and who are you? yoda?
i wouldn't say that korea's air is clean by any stretch of imagination, but i don't know if you can say that what we're seeing today isn't fog. if it was pollution, wouldn't the air be like this every day? or did they just pump all of the smokestacks in the country into overdrive just for today?
i think it's fog. |
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anyway
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:38 am Post subject: Re: Holy Smokes! That ain't fog out there?! |
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| endofthewor1d wrote: |
| jdog2050 wrote: |
| Bush-lite he is. |
and who are you? yoda?
i wouldn't say that korea's air is clean by any stretch of imagination, but i don't know if you can say that what we're seeing today isn't fog. if it was pollution, wouldn't the air be like this every day? or did they just pump all of the smokestacks in the country into overdrive just for today?
i think it's fog. |
Brilliant analysis. Pollution is really a dang liberal tree-hugger conspiracy against corporate capitalism's attempt to provide a dashboard Jesus for each and every one of us. God bless us every one! |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:47 am Post subject: Re: Holy Smokes! That ain't fog out there?! |
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| anyway wrote: |
Brilliant analysis. Pollution is really a dang liberal tree-hugger conspiracy against corporate capitalism's attempt to provide a dashboard Jesus for each and every one of us. God bless us every one! |
i don't think i said anything of the sort.
i said the air here is polluted. there's no doubt about that. but most days i can see through it. can fog really not coexist with polluted air? |
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seoul101
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: Seoul
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| It's not just pollution out there - most of it's fog. The roads are constantly wet right now (making it really slippery) from all the moisture. |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
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Agreed, endoftheworld, and have long argued as much.
The fact that we can occasionally observe little smog yet sometimes appear to live beneath an ocean of air pollution suggests the weather - and in my opinion the (lack of) wind - has a large say.
Today was disgusting however and because it's January and not April I didn't give the yellow dust a moment's thought. I also didn't think it looked particularly yellow. I'm of the view that, contrary to the lay observer with a brain the size of a sultana, visible air pollution is generally worse in winter because the wind stays only briefly and of course there's the lack of precipitation. In summer it rains heavily a lot and clears the air. |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| It's at 200+ ppm today, usually in the 50s except for last Saturday. |
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:25 am Post subject: Re: Holy Smokes! That ain't fog out there?! |
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| endofthewor1d wrote: |
| anyway wrote: |
Brilliant analysis. Pollution is really a dang liberal tree-hugger conspiracy against corporate capitalism's attempt to provide a dashboard Jesus for each and every one of us. God bless us every one! |
i don't think i said anything of the sort.
i said the air here is polluted. there's no doubt about that. but most days i can see through it. can fog really not coexist with polluted air? |
Umm, the mixture of pollution and fog is SMOG. Jesus. |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:56 am Post subject: Re: Holy Smokes! That ain't fog out there?! |
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| jdog2050 wrote: |
| endofthewor1d wrote: |
| anyway wrote: |
Brilliant analysis. Pollution is really a dang liberal tree-hugger conspiracy against corporate capitalism's attempt to provide a dashboard Jesus for each and every one of us. God bless us every one! |
i don't think i said anything of the sort.
i said the air here is polluted. there's no doubt about that. but most days i can see through it. can fog really not coexist with polluted air? |
Umm, the mixture of pollution and fog is SMOG. Jesus. |
why is everyone jumping down my throat? the title of this thread is 'holy smokes! that ain't fog out there?!'
i was just saying that i'm not so quick to rule out the possibility of there being fog out there right now. call it smog if you like, but as you said, a component of smog is fog. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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Korea is the 9th largest emitter of CO2 on the planet. For a country of a mere 50 million people with no fossil fuel deposits of any kind and relatively mild weather that number is astounding. Korea cleaning up their act would do alot to help here and around the globe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions
And yes I hold Canada in such contempt, but we are a bigger and colder country. |
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