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flummuxt

Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:08 am Post subject: Korea to students: Don't e-mail foreigners? |
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Why exactly to Korean e-mail services block e-mails from non-Korean accounts?
Do they want to discourage Koreans from communicating with non-Koreans?
This would be pretty ironic considering all the trouble and expense Koreans are going through to learn English. But if most Koreans try e-mailing a person from an English speaking country, they get ... nothing. And vice versa. No failure notice. Nothing.
The message this sends to Koreans, especially students, it seems to me, is it's OK to use your English in a school setting or with other Koreans, but don't use your English to communicate with foreigners. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: |
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I got in trouble last week because of this. I sent my boss an e-mail (he's on yahoo.co.kr) and it bounced back to me. Unfortunately for him, I was asking for a day off, and I took his silence to be tacit approval. |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:15 am Post subject: |
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Its an old ajosshi trick.
Its designed to prevent korean women from communicating and forming relationships with foreigners.
Don't ask for emails. just get phone numbers. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:23 am Post subject: |
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Is this true? I had a failed email delivery earlier this weeK when replying to someone. I use hotmail, and now that I think about it this has only happened when answering a Korean email account.
WTF? |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Location: Jeolla province
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:28 am Post subject: |
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That's slightly inaccurate.
The e-mail service called hanmail.net is incompatible with Microsoft's Hotmail.
http://wiki.galbijim.com/Hanmail
As to why that is, I have no clue. Perhaps it's a Protocol level incompatibility.
But, you'd figure this would be fixed by now. One of my co-teachers told me of the workaround for this; they all have non-hanmail accounts. I've never heard of a problem with Naver e-mail, but perhaps someone here has.
Sometimes, the person may have the spam filter up too high. God knows how many messages have been lost worldwide because of that. Here they even get spam text messages on cell-phones.
But I've gotten e-mails from Naver accounts and other in-country accounts.
Maybe it's a governmental thing. |
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flummuxt

Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: |
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caniff wrote:
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Is this true? I had a failed email delivery earlier this weeK when replying to someone. I use hotmail, and now that I think about it this has only happened when answering a Korean email account.
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Would I lie to you?
But seriously, what e-mail service were you trying to send to? My experience is that hanmail is the worst. When I was back home, my yahoo account would not communicate with hanmail.
I am not entirely sure what the problem is, how much of it is not being able to send to them, and how much is their not being able to send to us. And I wonder whether you can get an e-mail to work one day, and then weeks later, it won't work.
This matter of yahoo.co.kr bothers me. That's the first I had heard of this one.
If anyone has ideas on ways to avoid this problem, speak up.
My best suggestion is to get a new account here with a neutral e-mail provider, like gmail. This results in the account being linked to a Korean internet server.
But there is still the risk that we sometimes won't be able to e-mail from a Korea based account to an e-mail address back home. |
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ryouga013
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:50 am Post subject: |
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I didn't have problems with my American account to a Korean account but damned if my Japanese account was stopped on multiple occasions. |
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cunning_stunt

Joined: 16 Dec 2007
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:52 am Post subject: |
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Bollocks...never had this problem at all . |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:56 am Post subject: |
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flummuxt wrote: |
caniff wrote:
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Is this true? I had a failed email delivery earlier this weeK when replying to someone. I use hotmail, and now that I think about it this has only happened when answering a Korean email account.
WTF? |
Would I lie to you?
But seriously, what e-mail service were you trying to send to? |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: |
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I've emailed many people in Korea... only had troubles between my Hotmail and their Hanmail. |
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Boodleheimer

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Location: working undercover for the Man
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:09 am Post subject: |
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same as Captain Corea.
edit: no, wait. one time i had a bounce-back when i emailed a hanmail account from yahoo.com as well. i've only had one or two hotmail emails actually get through to hanmail. |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:35 am Post subject: |
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I regularly receive emails from hanmail to my gmail account. I'm curious, if you try to send an email to a hanmail account, and it doesn't work, does it get sent to you with a "delivery failure" message? Or does it just get lost? |
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flummuxt

Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:51 am Post subject: |
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Smee wrote:
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I regularly receive emails from hanmail to my gmail account. I'm curious, if you try to send an email to a hanmail account, and it doesn't work, does it get sent to you with a "delivery failure" message? Or does it just get lost? |
As I said, my Korea-based gmail account seems to work the best. But even so, sometimes I have mailed a hanmail account, and when I didn't hear anything back, I checked with the teacher and found that it never arrived. No failure notification, though. As far as I know, I get stuff OK to gmail.
There may be more than one type of problem involved. Maybe stuff just gets lost in the mail randomly going to korean e-mail accounts - who knows.
What makes it more confusing is that many Koreans are uncomfortable writing back in English, for obvious reasons. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:05 am Post subject: |
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agentX wrote: |
That's slightly inaccurate.
The e-mail service called hanmail.net is incompatible with Microsoft's Hotmail.
http://wiki.galbijim.com/Hanmail
As to why that is, I have no clue. Perhaps it's a Protocol level incompatibility.
But, you'd figure this would be fixed by now. One of my co-teachers told me of the workaround for this; they all have non-hanmail accounts. I've never heard of a problem with Naver e-mail, but perhaps someone here has.
Sometimes, the person may have the spam filter up too high. God knows how many messages have been lost worldwide because of that. Here they even get spam text messages on cell-phones.
But I've gotten e-mails from Naver accounts and other in-country accounts.
Maybe it's a governmental thing. |
Considering Hanmail is probably the biggest e-mail provider in this country, it is unacceptable.
Also, sometimes Hotmail to Hanmail works for a few months, and then it's blocked. |
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Justin Hale

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps I'm being rather dim and have fundamental misconceptions about what this thread is about, but I communicate with Koreans on a daily basis via a non-Korean server. |
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