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FliptheCoin



Joined: 11 Feb 2003
Location: Korea Korea you remind me of a west side story....

PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:13 pm    Post subject: How About Scooter Costs?!? Reply with quote

Read the post on the car, but realize this is a little more than I wanted to spend.

How about scooter costs? Was thinking for the summer it would be great fun (I have a motorcycle back home).

How much can you realistically spend on a used (or new) scooter. Remember I am trying to be economical here. What about insurance? Can you insure for only a few months at a time? How much to fill up? How far on a tank of petro? Any other words of wisdom?
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Anda



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2003 9:00 pm    Post subject: Um Reply with quote

Um. it sounds like you are in a hurry to spend time in hospital
Most bike repair shops sell second hand bikes. 300,000 to 500,000 won should get you a small bike. 50cc doesn't require road tax. The thief rate here on bikes is huge so be warned.
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Howard Roark



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 5:47 am    Post subject: scooters Reply with quote

i've had 4 scooters this past year. i kept trading up for bigger and faster. anyways, you can get a small second hand scooter, fine for one person, for 300 000 - 600 000won, depending on size, condition, and year. these small scooters are very economical on gas, and you don't need a license or insurance. the small scooters tend to not even have license plates. most bike shops have second hand bikes in this price range. you just give them the money, get a receipt and your bike. there's no paper work involved. it's no more complicated than buying a bicycle. it is dangerous driving here though, be warned. also, make sure you get a lock and use it all the time, these scooters are so easy to steal.
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Dr. Buck



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Land of the Morning Clam

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howard Raork's post is on the money. He knows what he's talking about. I've owned a couple and they are great for errands and exploring the city and nearby countryside.
I've also crashed one on a full speed collision with a truck and survived with a Terminator-like bounce off the pavement.
Wear a helmet or you will die. However, I broke that rule on nice weather days while driving in low-traffice areas.
But absolutely be careful, death is always near on these things and I've had hundreds of near-misses.
And you have to get good at quick-handling the nimbleness of this bikes--the smaller the better, the 49cc ones are best and safest because of the ultra-quick reaction you get out of them when you must make a millisecond reaction or eat taxi metal.
The little bikes also take a hell of beating--I've driven mine up mountain trails and they still keep running after a thorough trashing.
Lay them down, crash them and usually they still start up.
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mykrobb



Joined: 01 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for about 400,000-500,000 won you can get a 125cc motorcycle. much better than a scooter in my opinion because you can take them on the highways.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone interested in bikes should read "The official motorcycle/scooter" thread in off-topics.

Also, mykrobb, the expressway highways are off-limits to all bikes, even Harleys, though I hop on them illegally once in a while. Other than that, all highways are legal, even for scooters. You may have some problems going the speed limit riding a 50 or 100cc bike or scooter on national highways, but as far as I know it's legal.
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BRawk



Joined: 14 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to disagree with the claim that smaller scooterss (50cc) are safer. I have owned both a 50cc and 125cc and have found the 125 to be much safer, the reason being the lack of power in the smaller bike. I find it sometimes unsafe to pullout into fast moving traffic when you have an underpwered scooter.
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mykrobb



Joined: 01 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:

Also, mykrobb, the expressway highways are off-limits to all bikes, even Harleys, though I hop on them illegally once in a while. Other than that, all highways are legal, even for scooters. You may have some problems going the speed limit riding a 50 or 100cc bike or scooter on national highways, but as far as I know it's legal.


I'm well aware of that, but it's not exactly safe if you can't go the same speed as everyone else.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mykrobb wrote:
Bibbitybop wrote:

Also, mykrobb, the expressway highways are off-limits to all bikes, even Harleys, though I hop on them illegally once in a while. Other than that, all highways are legal, even for scooters. You may have some problems going the speed limit riding a 50 or 100cc bike or scooter on national highways, but as far as I know it's legal.


I'm well aware of that, but it's not exactly safe if you can't go the same speed as everyone else.


You are very correct. If the roads had better shoulders here, it wouldn't be a problem, but I encounter people on 50cc bikes, farmers on slow 4-wheelers and other slow ass vehicles on the national highways here. It gets bad out in the country, but I guess with reduced traffic it's better than blocking 100 people behind you in the city.
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mykrobb



Joined: 01 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. Buck wrote:

But absolutely be careful, death is always near on these things and I've had hundreds of near-misses.


And that is what has prompted me to sell my 400cc. I was recently in an accident with car that broke my arm and costed me 1.2mil in hospital bills and repair work. I am done navigating the maddening streets of Busan.
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shetan



Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Location: In front of my PC.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tested a 50cc 100cc and 125cc scooter...

The 50cc was terrible after riding my 125cc.... the lack of power made me feel scared... you pull out in front of a car, crank up the accelerator... and nothing happens!

The 100cc is ok if it is really powerful 100cc... My friends 100cc had faster acceleration then my 125 but my 125 cc had high top speed (90-100kph), and more power when we have our girlfriends on the back...

I bought 2 scooters 125cc... first cost 300,000 but got stolen.
2nd one cost 250,000 but I had to buy new tire and replace started motor (110,000) so 350,000 all up. (these were really cheap, 500-700 is probably normal.

I love riding them and would never go less then 125cc... especially if you have a gf who will be on the back often.

I didn�t register either of them (which is illegal) but I've never had any problems with police. They usually leave you alone if you are wearing a helmet.

I have DL but no insurance. I recommend you get it though.

I put about $5 gas every 3 - 4 days.... I actually did a mileage test and I think it was about 11km/1,000won. (cant remember exactly)

Awesome in summer and great for traffic probs. 15mins to apgujeong and hongdae- from Itaewon... and usually cuts bus time in about half.

You have to be careful and paying attention to whats going on around you 100% of the time... no drifting off into your thoughts or your road kill.

Koreans are really terrible drivers... they seem almost oblivious to anyone else on the road. So you have to expect very unexpected behavior... driving in the middle of 2 lanes, abrupt stops, suddenly stopping and turning with no indication. Also taxi drivers are sworn enemies of the scooterer... I�m sure they live to take you out!!

Good luck...
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About traffic laws, or lack of them:

Seoul cops are cracking down on unlicensed bikes and drivers. Read about the driver's license requirements before getting on a bike. They are also cracking down on helmet-less riders (even Korean drivers) as well as riding on the sidewalks.

I regularly see motorbike check points in Hyehwa since lots of students there cruise around with no helmet or license.
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Rae



Joined: 10 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About helmets - does Korea require them for riding a bike (as in a bicycle)?
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rae wrote:
About helmets - does Korea require them for riding a bike (as in a bicycle)?

Nope. You have the freedom to wear or not wear a helmet on a bicycle. Korea is a free country.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
Rae wrote:
About helmets - does Korea require them for riding a bike (as in a bicycle)?

Nope. You have the freedom to wear or not wear a helmet on a bicycle. Korea is a free country.


Well, in Canada you have to wear a helmet on a bicycle.

And if Korea was a free country, it wouldn't require motorcycle helmets. It would also let Korean citizens discuss politics and have free speech on the Internet.
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