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[Real Reality]

Foreign Instructors' Drug Offenses Unabating
By Park Si-soo, The Korea Times (January 10, 2008)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/01/117_17073.html

[the eye]

Passe. Both sides.

Let's get the networks wise to Mr.Kim just returning from his sex-holiday in Thailand/Cambodia/Vietnam, or banging prostitutes in the corner yeogwan a few times before taking a present home to his wife.

[Unposter]

A group of foreign nationals but only one English teacher. None of the other's professions were mentioned but the one English teacher was singled out. And, then talk about the E-2 visa. What visa were the others here on?

Oh and no one was even convicted yet. I guess you don't need a trial in Korea.

Selective or biased reporting? You decide.

[TheBulimicFatGuy]

[Homer]

Well idiocy knows no boundaries of race, creed or gender.

[kingplaya4]

This is why I disagreed with some of the morons on here who said the new regulations were a good thing that were going to give us more respect from Koreans

No doubt this idiot got in under the old system, but I'm sure fools on E2's and people on tourist visas will continue this behavior. Even if it turns into only a tourist visa issue (doubt it), selective reporting here may choose to make into an E2 problem. Nothing will change except for the whole more hoops thing. And given enough time, another child molestor or two will come out of the woodwork. I certainly don't wish it, but give enough people a few of them will be perverts no matter how many references and backgrounds you checked.

[Homer]

Fair enough king.

However, what do you propose instead?

They are trying to plug one leak here....should they stop from doing so because there are other leaks?

[kingplaya4]

Online criminal record checks that the government does themselves. We provide the information, possibly pay the fee, they can do it themselves and then we don't have to go through a bunch of nonsense. I would scrap the health check. Most of us come from countries which are far healthier than Korea. Besides that I find it way too invasive.

Drug testing? Ok, yes they catch some people here and there but out of the thousands that teach here hardly a big problem. I'm not a huge fan of marijuana, but its not like its terribly harmful or addictive anyways.

Schools should do reference checks. If this is something that immigration with increased manpower and better english speaking ability could do than fine, but I would doubt it. Reference checks are important, but unfortunately its probably going to remain incumbent on the schools to do them, which probably won't happen.

Also, if Korea wants better quality people, they have to stop offering us garbage. Two thousand bucks a month and a box is hardly a great salary (and despite what most on here claim is what the vast majority make), and then we get next to no vacation time, even at public schools were our Korean counterparts get over 2 months of it a year. Basically, you treat someone like they are less than you, that's probably who you will attract or what you will get out of them.

Maybe someone with a BA and no work history doesn't even deserve a box and 2 grand. Fine. Don't hire them. In the end its their country. If they want to stop all English programs I wouldn't utter a word of complaint, but as long as they want to learn, they should seek to have a relationship of mutual respect with the people they want teaching them.

[Hank the Iconoclast]

[Bibbitybop]

The article certainly doesn't mention the Koreans that were involved.

Why's that? Oh, Koreans should be easily forgiven. Whether it's rape, pimping teenage girls, domestic abuse or drugs, it's only bad when a foreigner does it. It's even worse when an English teacher does it.

Remember folks, even though English teachers get caught using drugs more than Koreans, the statistics show that Koreans use more drugs than foreigners. Or at least get caught using drugs more than foreigners.

Read about that here: http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/12/28/koreans-use-drugs-more-than-foreigners-but-canucks-still-potheads/

[Suwoner10]

[cbclark4]

The "English Teacher" was 21?

How many college Graduates are 21?

I think this may have been someone slipping under the radar that is the fine immigration process, Korea Sparkling, KISS.

[Rteacher]

You can forge an online check, but online checks are only available to teachers who are currently residing in Korea.

And such checks (either national or from the last state you legally resided in) have to be submitted along with a sworn affidavit before a U.S. Embassy consul - which subjects you to perjury laws if it's found out at some point that the document was forged.

Those who go that route will always live in fear of getting caught ...

[billybrobby]

[billybrobby]