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pharflung
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 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: Violence in Toronto's schools is citywide: report |
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Violence in Toronto's schools is citywide: report
Dogs recommended to sniff out guns in student lockers
Last Updated: Thursday, January 10, 2008 | 7:13 PM ET
CBC News
A report on violence in Toronto schools says gun-sniffing dogs may be needed to combat a problem that is not restricted to troubled neighbourhoods in the northwest area of the city.
Lawyer Julian Falconer, who led a three-member school community safety advisory panel, stressed there have been scores of incidents involving guns in schools in other Toronto areas.
"Ladies and gentlemen, nothing could be further from the truth than that this is a problem involving the black kids at Jane [Street] and Finch [Avenue]," he said Thursday as the report was officially released.
"That's simply an utter, specious myth."
The report was scheduled for release Monday, but advance excerpts were obtained by many media outlets, hastening its release.
The panel was assembled by the Toronto District School Board after the shooting death of 15-year-old Jordan Manners in a hallway of C.W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute in May. Falconer asked for a moment of silence in the boy's memory before outlining the panel's findings.
According to the panel, Toronto's school system has become a place where violent incidents go unreported, and where there is fear among both students and staff.
The report says a "culture of fear, or culture of silence, permeates through every level of the TDSB [Toronto District School Board]."
The panel made more than 100 recommendations, one involving the creation of a website on which students could file anonymous reports of violence.
But the idea getting the most attention involves buying sniffer dogs that would seek out guns in student lockers and other hiding places.
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: |
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You mean something is amiss among the gentlefolk in the Land of Dudley Do-Right? Say it ain't so, Joe.
Why I thought those kids would all be too busy celebrating their diversity? |
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| That's what you get with an inflating currency. You can't have it all, baby, you can't have it all. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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So, the abstract to this report is 55 pages. I wanted to read it but, uh, no.
As I understand, the city is dishonestly using the phrase "citywide" to describe Jane and Finch, and the schools in that area. This would not surprise me. Virtually all the gun caused murders in Toronto are linked to this area, and people who come from this area.
Any report coming from a city council that (no joke) thought the solution to the problem in the Jane/Finch area was (in their condescending and racist seriousness) basketball courts is just not trustworthy. There was a program of no-tolerance in the schools. All violent acts were punishable by up to expulsion, and all violent acts that caused bodily harm were mandatory expulsion. Too many people from one ethnic group got the boot and the hippies pulled the program insisting it was "racist". These hippies are unable to run a corner store, let alone a city as complicated as Toronto has become.
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How bad are Toronto's public schools? The numbers in yesterday's school safety report presented to the Toronto District School Board paint a picture of our public high schools as havens of terror. Guns, knives, sexual assault, extortion, racism and a code of silence have fashioned a school system that graduates survivors, not students.
The spectre of such a conclusion was evident even before the School Community Safety Advisory Panel presented its findings.
In the course of its inquiry the panel discovered an alleged sexual assault at C.W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute in 2006 against a female student. The incident has all the hallmarks of the worst social pathologies that plague the Jane and Finch community where Jefferys is located -- a gang attack on a lone victim, protected by a code of silence, leaving the perpetrators free to terrorize others.
Since the panel learned of the allegations, six male students have been charged while a principal and two vice-principals have been put on leave by the TDSB. The school officials also face charges under Ontario's Child and Family Service Act for failing to report the incident.
"Equity" is the saving grace for such a broken system, according to this panel. It pays homage to the concept by painting all 102 Toronto public high schools using the same broad brush. For that reason the panel would like to see all students wear identification cards, all schools subjected to sniffer dogs and argues that all female students are at risk of "gender-based violence."
The panel would prefer schools with mostly black students to have black teachers, though it does not call for quotas, and an Afrocentric focus, having bought the ill-conceived notion it will improve the self-esteem of disengaged students and thus outcomes.
And it is out of concern for equity that the panel takes direct aim at the Safe Schools Act introduced by the Ontario Conservatives in the 1990s and declares it a failure because of its disproportionate impact on black students who have been suspended and expelled at greater rates than other students.
Zero tolerance is out. Students who are criminals and bullies, the ones who make schools unsafe and strike fear into the hearts of fellow students and teachers of all races, are now "complex-need youth" who must not be transferred out of their home schools unless they present the gravest of threats. |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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thepeel aptly observed:
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| Too many people from one ethnic group got the boot and the hippies pulled the program insisting it was "racist". These hippies are unable to run a corner store, let alone a city as complicated as Toronto has become. |
But that hippie mindset and the lax immigration laws are the direct result of the socialist/liberal leanings of so many Canadian pols and profs these days.
The hippies couldn't even organize the Woodstock concert or find their way out of a cereal box.
But it all begs the question:
Why is it that the worst school violence is largely confined to these neighborhoods? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
thepeel aptly observed:
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| Too many people from one ethnic group got the boot and the hippies pulled the program insisting it was "racist". These hippies are unable to run a corner store, let alone a city as complicated as Toronto has become. |
But that hippie mindset and the lax immigration laws are the direct result of the socialist/liberal leanings of so many Canadian pols and profs these days.
The hippies couldn't even organize the Woodstock concert or find their way out of a cereal box.
But it all begs the question:
Why is it that the worst school violence is largely confined to these neighborhoods? |
Sometimes I think it is as simple as 'violence begets violence'
If you've got a tough neighborhood (like one I grew up in), people learned fast how to solve their problems with violence... and eventually prided themselves on it.
It may start as a socio-economic condition, but a lot of the reason it continues is ego. |
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stevemcgarrett
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Captain Corea reflected:
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If you've got a tough neighborhood (like one I grew up in), people learned fast how to solve their problems with violence... and eventually prided themselves on it.
It may start as a socio-economic condition, but a lot of the reason it continues is ego. |
At the risk of patronizing you, that is one of the most incisive things you've posted on this forum. It would explain how the cycle of violence is perpetuated, too. But I also think that if you scratch beneath the surface, you'll find a disproportionate number of families with absent fathers, less education, and a victim mentality that bellows that "I'm owed something."
And I say this as one who grew up being either poor or lower middle class myself. |
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Captain Corea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
Captain Corea reflected:
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If you've got a tough neighborhood (like one I grew up in), people learned fast how to solve their problems with violence... and eventually prided themselves on it.
It may start as a socio-economic condition, but a lot of the reason it continues is ego. |
At the risk of patronizing you, that is one of the most incisive things you've posted on this forum. It would explain how the cycle of violence is perpetuated, too. But I also think that if you scratch beneath the surface, you'll find a disproportionate number of families with absent fathers, less education, and a victim mentality that bellows that "I'm owed something."
And I say this as one who grew up being either poor or lower middle class myself. |
Add to that the ignorance about what they are actually 'owed', and we've got it nearly wrapped up.
lol |
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Roch
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dogbert
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