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Nearly one in three in Arab world illiterate: report
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha! I post an article that says 50% of all Arab women are illiterate and bigbird responds that she knows a couple muslim dames who went to grad school ergo all is cool.

Yeah. I'm the one extrapolating a statement about the majority from a minority. Sure.
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
"Tribute to Edward Said"

ddeubel wrote:
A perfect example
of how ignorance perpetuates...
like that age old telephone game.

...if this thread continued,
we'd soon have it that arabs can't even think
(because they can't read
and then there is no writing
and then there is no child picture books
and then no creativity in youth
and then...)

Such nonsense

and anyone who knows anything about poetry
can only laugh at the claim above,
madly not sadly laugh.
Same with literature.

The claim would read better as --

Yes, this is true.
Sadly there is very little known about modern Arab literature
beyond Naguib Mahfouz.


Who's next?
The Persians?
The Kenyans?

What childish stereotyping.

DD


Your prose is much more pleasing to read in this form, Ddeubel. Sometimes I wonder if you have not missed a greater calling in life.


This must be why gopher and I used to get along. DD, you bring people together.
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Your prose is much more pleasing to read in this form, Ddeubel. Sometimes I wonder if you have not missed a greater calling in life.


I must give you this Gopher, you are very prescient or I guess the better word would be perceptive. Didn't miss the calling - did you find out my nome de plume perchance? I like your editing and you'd make a great surrealist with this sort of "found art".

I think I'll start a thread or just from now on reply to topics in poem......I'll think about that. Most of my poetry, published and not is precomputer - so it'll give me a chance to type it up. Here's one for ya. Please feel free to improve and alter.

God, Power and the Gun

God must have made the gun
That strong, heaven sending death stick.
I cannot see man, weak man
Making such a perfect, infallible beast.
These are different
They are not anonymous like a gun or god.

Not all the hymns, from all the lips
In all the churches the world over
Will make me know different.
Faith, hope,charity, goodwill
These are godly things,
But so too is a gun.

I am sure that if god sits
On his throne high above,
He sits with a gun across his lap,
In fear of those below.
Those below with many guns
And many heavenly thoughts.

DD

Bucheon bum,

Poetry is literature - its highest form (though I really don't buy into that categorization, I say it merely because it is the common place notion). But I do agree too few books are published in Arab countries but that isn't a cause of illiteracy.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not bad, Ddeubel. I prefer our spontaneous ones, however.

ddeubel wrote:
I like your editing and you'd make a great surrealist with this sort of "found art".


Thanks and I hope you never took offense to my doing that. It truly reads much better that way. Still disagree with your politics. But that is another matter.

Cheers.
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