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New ID Rules May Complicate Air Travel
By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Millions of air travelers may find going through airport security much more complicated this spring, as the Bush administration heads toward a showdown with state governments over post-Sept. 11 rules for new driver's licenses. By May, the dispute could leave millions of people unable to use their licenses to board planes, but privacy advocates called that a hollow threat by federal officials.



Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, who was unveiling final details of the REAL ID Act's rules on Friday, said that if states want their licenses to remain valid for air travel after May 2008, those states must seek a waiver indicating they want more time to comply with the legislation.

The deadline is an effort to get states to begin phasing in the REAL ID program. Citizens born after Dec. 1, 1964, would have six years to get a new license; older Americans would have until 2017.

Chertoff said that for any state which doesn't seek such a waiver by May, residents of that state will have to use a passport or certain types of federal border-crossing cards if they want to avoid a vigorous secondary screening at airport security.

"The last thing I want to do is punish citizens of a state who would love to have a REAL ID "license" but can't get one," Chertoff said. "But in the end, the rule is the rule as passed by Congress."

The plan's chief critic, the American Civil Liberties Union, called Chertoff's deadline a bluff � and urged state governments to call him on it.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080112/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/secure_driver_s_licenses

[twg]

I've never understood how a driver's license became the default credential for just about everything back home. Just because it has your picture on it?

So does my Costo card, but I can't use that to open a bank account.

[Milwaukiedave]

Well even more so for those of us living overseas. Granted we have a passport, but often two ids are required to get on a plane. Is this going to be only for planes flying inside the US and leaving the US or will it include (as one would think it would) flights going into the US from other countries?

Imagine being told at the airport you can't go home. Will it come to this?

[igotthisguitar]

Microchip implants would make it all so much easier, "safer" etc ...

[wannago]

[pesawattahi]

Well the 1-6 years seems to have solved that "rush to get the new ID" problem critics have been harping on about. You can just get one next time you renew your liscense. I wouldn't mind a more tamper proof verifiable ID, it would help eliminate voter and identiy fraud.

They should also put your imigration status on there if you are a foriegn national, that would help with the folks overstaying their visas and illegals. Before you start caling me a facist name an overseas country (not Canada or Mexico) where you don't have to show your passport as your ID.

[igotthisguitar]

[mistermasan]

don't you wory about voting. you just keep on consuming. capische?

[Milwaukiedave]

[pesawattahi]

Since you have 1-6 years to get this new ID you should just be able to get it when you normally renew it. They may have learned their lesson with the whole needing a passport for Canada debacle.

As for the electronic voter fraud I will send the guys in the black helicopters over to your house right away. Don't bother giving an address, we already have it.

[Milwaukiedave]

FYI passport for Americans are 10 years.

[pesawattahi]

I know they are 10 years, liscenses are not. The debacle I am reffering to is the rush to get passports and the huge backlog it created. I just got my new California liscense a couple months ago and it expires in 2012 which will be before the deadline ends. So if mine is not Real ID compliant now my next one will be when I renew. The only real issues are the behind the scenes standardization and equipment needed. It shouldn't be a problem for the people themselves.