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bacasper
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| But do you welcome people like Bacaspar and Igotthisguitar and their worldviews and suspicions driving such a process...? |
Do you mean "reality?" None of you has been able to refute any facts I have presented.
Would you really prefer the worldviews of blind jingoists like Gopher and McGarrett?
Gopher, you know where you can take that chip on your shoulder and shove it. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Kucinich is seeking a recount BECAUSE of Ron Paul. Kucinich has already said he'd pick Paul as Veep. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Reccount is being demanded b/c major procedural fraud has occured ... once again.
Interestingly i have yet to see any mention of this on CNN.
Hmmmmmm ... AmeriKa  |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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MilwaukieDave applauded:
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stevemcgarrett wrote:
I agree. Kucinich is entitled to a recount. After all, half of his supporters and would-be constituency were too busy trying to divert that meteor from hitting Mars to have their voices heard.
Steve, I never figured I say this to you, but that was funny. |
Thanks, I kinda thought it was. Too bad GWW got his *beep* in a twist. Like I would overlook the Stormin' Mormon or something. Yeah, GWW, there are wackos in both camps but Kucinich takes the cake--well, maybe Paul.
P.S. Portland and Eugene are two of the finest cities in America to live in and raise families, my previous ribbing notwithstanding. And Reed College, although having a definite liberal slant, is one of the few places where the undergrad course of study really demands critical thinking. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Interestingly i have yet to see any mention of this on CNN.
Hmmmmmm ... AmeriKa |
Certainly nicely sums up your thought processes.
Are you putting a pipe in your mouth when you say "Hmmmmmm," by the way? |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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So, Gopher-Joo ... now that i have your attention, i'll again pose the question you've been avoiding:
Which great societies are you so proudly a part of?
Which fair & noble associations? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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*shrugs in frustration*
All right, Igotthisguitar, your heroic persistence has defeated my resistance to confessing the evil truth I have been concealing.
I am a member of Skull & Bones and a Freemason. Joo is my partner and back-up. We have been assigned to Dave's ESL Cafe and specifically to you. Our superiors, Hitler, H.W. Bush, and W. Bush, have deemed you a threat to our global plans and conspiracies. And my and Joo's mission is to sow confusion and disinformation in this vital internet space so that you might stop posting the truth and informing "the people" about our activities -- from JFK to last week's "elections" in New Hampshire.
Now, of course, since you have forced us out into the open, we must move against you. Better lock your doors, secure alternate passports, and start taking public transportation everywhere you go...For you have made us angry. And you won't like us when we're angry. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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*shrugs in frustration*
All right, Igotthisguitar, your heroic persistence has defeated my resistance to confessing the evil truth I have been concealing.
I am a member of Skull & Bones and a Freemason. Joo is my partner and back-up. We have been assigned to Dave's ESL Cafe and specifically to you. Our superiors, Hitler, H.W. Bush, and W. Bush, have deemed you a threat to our global plans and conspiracies. And my and Joo's mission is to sow confusion and disinformation in this vital internet space so that you might stop posting the truth and informing "the people" about our activities -- from JFK to last week's "elections" in New Hampshire.
Now, of course, since you have forced us out into the open, we must move against you. Better lock your doors, secure alternate passports, and start taking public transportation everywhere you go...For you have made us angry. And you won't like us when we're angry. |
Really? 
That's your answer?
If this is not the case, why the persistent avoidance?
If this is not the case, what are you hiding?
What are you so ashamed to admit?
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Would you like a better answer? Look behind you.
Joo: "the chicken has barked at the moon." Repeat: "the chicken has barked at the moon." You know what to do... |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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"And by their fruits ye shall know them ..."
25 Rules of Gopher-mation
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Would you like a better answer? Look behind you.
Joo: "the chicken has barked at the moon."
Repeat: "the chicken has barked at the moon."
You know what to do... |
1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil
2. Become incredulous and indignant
3. Create rumor mongers
4. Use a straw man
5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling, ridicule
6. Hit and Run
7. Question motives
8. Invoke authority
9. Play Dumb
10. Associate opponent charges with old news
11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions
12. Enigmas have no solution
13. Alice in Wonderland Logic
14. Demand complete solutions
15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions
16. Vanish evidence and witnesses
17. Change the subject
18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad
19. Ignore facts, demand impossible proofs
20. False evidence
21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor
22. Manufacture a new truth
23. Create bigger distractions
24. Silence critics
25. Vanish
Eight Traits of The Disinformationalist
1. Avoidance
2. Selectivity
3. Coincidental
4. Teamwork
5. Anti-conspiratorial
6. Artificial Emotions
7. Inconsistent
8. Newly Discovered: Time Constant
http://www.ominous-valve.com/blog/25ways.html
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Because I do not need to contact her.
She does not have any bearing at all on any of the societies I belong to or attend the conferences I attend.
In the context in which you present her, she would be laughed out of the room ... |
So what societies do you so proudly belong to Gopher? |
Which ones?
arf arf ... |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:59 am Post subject: |
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Do you mean "reality?" None of you has been able to refute any facts I have presented.
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When is the last time you were in contact with reality?
Weren't you the one who claimed Obama said he would keep troops in Iraq till 2013? |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
*shrugs in frustration*
All right, Igotthisguitar, your heroic persistence has defeated my resistance to confessing the evil truth I have been concealing.
I am a member of Skull & Bones and a Freemason. Joo is my partner and back-up. We have been assigned to Dave's ESL Cafe and specifically to you. Our superiors, Hitler, H.W. Bush, and W. Bush, have deemed you a threat to our global plans and conspiracies. And my and Joo's mission is to sow confusion and disinformation in this vital internet space so that you might stop posting the truth and informing "the people" about our activities -- from JFK to last week's "elections" in New Hampshire.
Now, of course, since you have forced us out into the open, we must move against you. Better lock your doors, secure alternate passports, and start taking public transportation everywhere you go...For you have made us angry. And you won't like us when we're angry. |
Gopher,
You don't have to cover for me, I confess I am the evil doer. Actually Gopher and Joo are specific decoys that were meant to distract you so that I can find out who you are and toture you IGTG. But I've finally come to my senses. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:30 am Post subject: |
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"And by their fruits ye shall know them ..."
25 Rules of Gopher-mation
1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil
2. Become incredulous and indignant
3. Create rumor mongers
4. Use a straw man
5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling, ridicule
6. Hit and Run
7. Question motives
8. Invoke authority
9. Play Dumb
10. Associate opponent charges with old news
11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions
12. Enigmas have no solution
13. Alice in Wonderland Logic
14. Demand complete solutions
15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions
16. Vanish evidence and witnesses
17. Change the subject
18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad
19. Ignore facts, demand impossible proofs
20. False evidence
21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor
22. Manufacture a new truth
23. Create bigger distractions
24. Silence critics
25. Vanish
Eight Traits of The Disinformationalist
1. Avoidance
2. Selectivity
3. Coincidental
4. Teamwork
5. Anti-conspiratorial
6. Artificial Emotions
7. Inconsistent
8. Newly Discovered: Time Constant
http://www.ominous-valve.com/blog/25ways.html |
The funny thing about that is a) He doesn't even give the author credit for the quote; and b) The website it was taken from (which doesn't exsist anymore) is called proparanoid.com
Isn't that fitting. |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Reality: Recount granted
http://www.foxreno.com/politics/15028468/detail.html
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The New Hampshire secretary of state will conduct hand recounts of Tuesday's Democratic and Republican primaries, reported Manchester, N.H., TV station WMUR-TV.
Democratic candidate Dennis Kucinich and lesser-known Republican Albert Howard asked for the primary recounts.
Kucinich, who received 1.4 percent of the New Hampshire primary vote said that he is asking for the recount because of what he says are unexplained disparities between hand-counted ballots and machine-counted ballots and rumors online of counting errors.
Kucinich said he doesn't expect the recount to affect the results. |
At least in New Hampshire they believe in democracy. Can't say the same for certain other places (Ie: Florida). |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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From the link agentX provided: "It is imperative that these questions be addressed in the interest of public confidence in the integrity of the election process and the election machinery," Kucinich said in a written statement."
I agree. For 90% of us, the results of the recount will be satisfactory. A tweak in numbers here, a nudge there, and the results will look remarkably like what was announced on Tuesday night. For the 10% or so of the moonbat crowd, nothing will change: the establishment will still be wholy corrupt, no election will be trusted, the fix will still be in. [/quote] |
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