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Netz
Joined: 11 Oct 2004
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 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:28 am Post subject: What is the lowest hourly rate you'd accept? |
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For teeching Englishy? duh~!
High rollers and low ballers, give us your call. |
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jlb
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Do you mean for a regular, sign a contract job? Or private teaching? These are 2 different things.
Private teaching: 50 000/hour (because of the risk)
At my uni: 30 000/hour and that's with no prep. Prep requires at least 40 000. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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hourly rate? what am i, a pc room?
i never calculate it that way
i think in terms of salary per year and of contract terms on a monthly or term basis
two thousand dollars a month would be the absolute minimum |
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Voyeur
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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CDI is a school that pays you hourly.
As a first-year gig, I'd definitely consider them if they offer 30k +
Those are block hours.
I can't think of any other situation where I would be paid hourly aside from privates - or "mock" privates where you work through an agency and it is semi-legal (speaking as E-2er).
In either case, factors like travel time, how many block hours, reliability, etc... all factor in. So it is hard to put a floor down - and I don't like those kinds of jobs much anyways. But maybe 45k as a newbie and 60k for myself. |
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DCJames
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Voyeur wrote: |
CDI is a school that pays you hourly.
As a first-year gig, I'd definitely consider them if they offer 30k +
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most people get 23K an hour with no housing, insurance, or benefits.  |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Hourly? You mean working legally? |
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saw6436
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon, ROK
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| private classes? Minimum of 50k per 50 minutes. |
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Netz
Joined: 11 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
hourly rate? what am i, a pc room?
i never calculate it that way
i think in terms of salary per year and of contract terms on a monthly or term basis
two thousand dollars a month would be the absolute minimum |
I can't believe people take jobs like these, knowing full well their employers are making triple, if not quadruple the amount of money they're paying in salary. Besides, living in Korea ain't cheap, and considering average salaries have remained relatively unchanged in 10 years, it's not the "cash cow" it used to be.
Seriously, stay home and work at Wal Mart for that kind of dough. I can understand that some teachers from countries with economic problems may do better here than at home, but if you're from an affluent nation, and putting up with this crap for 24k year, you should rethink your options. That�s almost poverty level in the US.
You could work in China for example, and make a lot less comparatively to say a US dollar exchange rate, BUT you'd actually be making much more relative to the local economy and enjoy a higher standard of living. I know of a few people who LOVE their jobs, houses, students in China, even though they don't make as "much" as they did in Korea.
It's all relative I guess, but what I'm saying is maybe the lowballers should consider China an option. Honestly, that 2 mil minimum is looking pretty crappy, especially when you consider all the hoops of flames you need to jump through in order to even work.
Ouch.
Anyway, hopefully these new changes will ultimately have a positive effect, and even though the likelihood is that the English teaching industry will eventually dry up in Korea, I don�t see it happening anytime soon. |
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patongpanda
Joined: 06 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I'm doing extras for the standard GEPIK rate of 20k per hour.
I do 44 hours extra a month = 880kWon a month.
That's way more than enough for my living expenses so I never touch my base salary.
The students are getting a great deal (they pay 20k / number of students per class).
Perhaps I should have negotiated more, but these students are really great they help me out with everything my school should be helping with.
I also get copious amounts of freebies so I can't complain. |
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faster
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| 100k, but I have an E2 visa, so I don't do private lessons. |
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cruisemonkey
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| hourly rate? what am i, a pc room? |
Good one! 
I don't work on a hourly basis either. My school district wanted me to do an 'English Camp' during winter vacation - 12 hrs/day (Mon.-Fri) for two weeks. They offered me 1.6 million over and above my salary. Based on an eight-hour day (as per my contract), this works out to W40.000/hr. for the 'overtime'. When I said "No." they were puzzled and asked "Why?" I replied "Because it's not worth it, and I don't need the money." That was the end of the matter. |
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Voyeur
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
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| There are people at CDI for 23,000 an hour now? Holy Hannah! I thought 25k was their minimum. 23k / hour at CDI would be rather hellish. |
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hagwonnewbie
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| 35k minimum for legal unsubsidized work |
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TheChickenLover
Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: The Chicken Coop
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:50 am Post subject: |
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There are various formulae I use
single hour : 50k (no discounts)
multiple hours in a time block : 45k
group single hour : 100k
group block : 75k
I've received numerous requests. I always tell them that the one hour isn't just one hour (travel + prep). If they refuse, I'll tell them no & would rather spend my time pvp'ing on eve.
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Netz wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
hourly rate? what am i, a pc room?
i never calculate it that way
i think in terms of salary per year and of contract terms on a monthly or term basis
two thousand dollars a month would be the absolute minimum |
I can't believe people take jobs like these, knowing full well their employers are making triple, if not quadruple the amount of money they're paying in salary. Besides, living in Korea ain't cheap, and considering average salaries have remained relatively unchanged in 10 years, it's not the "cash cow" it used to be.
Seriously, stay home and work at Wal Mart for that kind of dough. I can understand that some teachers from countries with economic problems may do better here than at home, but if you're from an affluent nation, and putting up with this crap for 24k year, you should rethink your options. That�s almost poverty level in the US.
You could work in China for example, and make a lot less comparatively to say a US dollar exchange rate, BUT you'd actually be making much more relative to the local economy and enjoy a higher standard of living. I know of a few people who LOVE their jobs, houses, students in China, even though they don't make as "much" as they did in Korea.
It's all relative I guess, but what I'm saying is maybe the lowballers should consider China an option. Honestly, that 2 mil minimum is looking pretty crappy, especially when you consider all the hoops of flames you need to jump through in order to even work.
Ouch.
Anyway, hopefully these new changes will ultimately have a positive effect, and even though the likelihood is that the English teaching industry will eventually dry up in Korea, I don�t see it happening anytime soon. |
What are you talking about? Average used to be 1.2-1.3 million for 30 hours at a hagwon in the late 90's. How much is it now? 2.2-2.4, right? |
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