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Korean immigrant says newcomers need more support

 
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laogaiguk



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Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Korean immigrant says newcomers need more support Reply with quote

Korean immigrant says newcomers need more support

I figure this is actually the best forum for this.

I just think this shows that it sucks to be an immigrant (or migrant worker) anywhere. Having said that, I would much rather be an immigrant in Canada about a million times more than being one here.
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komerican



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Canadians are seriously deluded if they think that importing foreigners will stave off their demographic problems. The west's demographic problems will not be solved by importing Muslims, Asians, etc. If you want to solve Canada�s low birth rate you address THAT problem not introduce another "problem" or a half-assed "solution" that doesn't solve the original problem anyway.

No country in the west at present has had enough immigration to counter the reduction in birth rates, contrary to what most people believe.

Immigration is not the answer and it does harm to the exporting countries since it results in brain drain from some countries that cannot afford it. For example, nurses, doctors, and other highly trained people from some African countries. Immigration, today, is a selfish policy by developed countries, exploits the poor, and harms the labor exporting country. the philippines has been exporting labor but they are still poor because the skilled people don't come back to dev. their econ.

A better solution for Canada is easy. Just create a limited work program that has a 5 year cap that force workers to save and also to return to their homelands with their cash and valuable skills that their homeland needs. This helps poorer countries to develop and also solves the shortage of labor situation in developed countries. The alternative as it is now enriches the elite business owners while shifting costs of immigration to the middle class and poorer countries.






"The other difference is we have been actively recruiting these Korean families as part of Metro�s goal of offsetting serious demographic problems looming in Metro�s future � an aging workforce, an aging population and tight labour market."
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in_seoul_2003



Joined: 24 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

komerican wrote:
A better solution for Canada is easy. Just create a limited work program that has a 5 year cap that force workers to save and also to return to their homelands with their cash and valuable skills that their homeland needs.


Homeland, eh? Perhaps Canada has come to realize what Korea has not: that after 5 years working, living, developing relationships, enculturating, in a foreign country where, then, is the 'homeland'?
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komerican



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in_seoul_2003 wrote:
komerican wrote:
A better solution for Canada is easy. Just create a limited work program that has a 5 year cap that force workers to save and also to return to their homelands with their cash and valuable skills that their homeland needs.


Homeland, eh? Perhaps Canada has come to realize what Korea has not: that after 5 years working, living, developing relationships, enculturating, in a foreign country where, then, is the 'homeland'?


Adult first generation immigrants rarely acculturate into the culture, contrary to what is believed on this board. The process of acculturation occurs in the formative years during elementary, secondary and higher education. First generation immigrants will never acculturate although they may assimilate into the society, i.e., get a job, pay taxes, etc.
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in_seoul_2003



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

komerican wrote:
in_seoul_2003 wrote:
komerican wrote:
A better solution for Canada is easy. Just create a limited work program that has a 5 year cap that force workers to save and also to return to their homelands with their cash and valuable skills that their homeland needs.


Homeland, eh? Perhaps Canada has come to realize what Korea has not: that after 5 years working, living, developing relationships, enculturating, in a foreign country where, then, is the 'homeland'?


Adult first generation immigrants rarely acculturate into the culture, contrary to what is believed on this board. The process of acculturation occurs in the formative years during elementary, secondary and higher education. First generation immigrants will never acculturate although they may assimilate into the society, i.e., get a job, pay taxes, etc.


'Acculturate' is just as controversial here as 'homeland'. By whose measure are we using? More importantly, being acculturated would imply a single culture to which one acculturates. But doesn't Canada (as with almost every other nation in the world) have multiple sub-cultures, any one of which is open to a 5-year immigrant?

Additionally, how many Canadians who have lived in Canada all their lives are acculturated to a single culture?
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