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nick1753593
Joined: 10 Jul 2007
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 Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: Very discouraged with the whole process of finding a job |
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| in Korea. This certain school that I am applying to offered me the job and I got all the documents that i needed for the E-2 visa. I am supposed to leave in two weeks and I recieve an e-mail message saying that the Immigration office had a mishap with my visa and I have to get my notarizied diploma and criminal background check redone. Allegedly I will be able to make a visa run once I arrive but the more i get into getting details the more I think this might be a bad situation. Any suggestions of what I can do or should I just start applying for Non-govermental jobs in the US. This process is taking way to long and I think I am being taken for a ride |
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TheChickenLover
Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: The Chicken Coop
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You think you have it bad now? Just wait till you get here. There is a significant chance your students won't be exactly as was promised, you'll be put in an old moldy rathole for a house & may not even receive your full pay. Forget about your bonus + airfare & don't even dream of taking a sick day off unless you want to be fired regardless of why.
This is far too common an occurance for newbies.
**Sparkling** !!!
Chicken
(disclaimer: plenty of people also have great places)
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Very discouraged with the whole process of finding a job |
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| nick1753593 wrote: |
| in Korea. This certain school that I am applying to offered me the job and I got all the documents that i needed for the E-2 visa. I am supposed to leave in two weeks and I recieve an e-mail message saying that the Immigration office had a mishap with my visa and I have to get my notarizied diploma and criminal background check redone. Allegedly I will be able to make a visa run once I arrive but the more i get into getting details the more I think this might be a bad situation. Any suggestions of what I can do or should I just start applying for Non-govermental jobs in the US. This process is taking way to long and I think I am being taken for a ride |
hold firm and insist you did what you were asked to do - do NOT let them pressure you into redoing something you already did - surely it must have cost you money as well as time? be professional, be firm and stay calm.
you should NOT leave and expect to do a visa run because there is really no reason for that - if you submit your docs and obtain a visa issuance number you then take that to your consulate and will be issued a visa in a couple of days -
on the other hand, if you come on to K w/o your E2, the way things are now - quite erratic, to say the least - you could very well find yourself stuck here for whatever reason, no E2 and no other school able to hire you unless you return home and do the entire process over again? perhaps.
unfortunately, all the new rules have not provided easy access to information so the situatin you are in now may be the school's fault for mishandling your documents or it could be immi's - who knows.
you might politely ask about where are your documents - if for some reason they find them unacceptable as is - then they definitely should return them to you - they are still your property - and then you should decide whether you want to continue with this school or seek another position elsewhere.
DON'T let them strongarm you - hang in there, ok?
good luck and keep us posted. |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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I'm pretty sure that it wasn't immigration that had the "mishap" with your documents...more likely it was the school/recruiter. KEEP LOOKING!! You'll probably have to get your docs again though, if you already sent them...  |
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roknroll
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
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| I'm pretty sure that it wasn't immigration that had the "mishap" with your documents...more likely it was the school/recruiter. KEEP LOOKING!! You'll probably have to get your docs again though, if you already sent them... |
good point, my thoughts exactly. OP, u mentioned getting the e-mail but from who? I'm also willing to bet it was your prospective employer who sent you the email. It's possible papers got lost in the shuffle, but haven't heard that one myself before. usually after you apply to the consulate, everything is couriered and signed for and hence accounted for. ur prospective employer receives the visa issuance number and this was used in the application at the consulate---so u should be entering on an E2 visa. if they lost the supporting documents, it was after they already issued the visa number (blue paper here i think it's called as well) and hence after you were approved to teach. clear it up first before coming here (call the K consulate u went to for verification--assuming the email wasn't from them, even so double check it). |
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MarionG
Joined: 14 Sep 2006
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My understanding is that Immigration only looks at the documents, (maybe they copy them, but I doubt it) and hands them back to the recruiter or school, whoever brought them in.
I would NOT come, this sounds a bit like a put up deal. What recruiter is it? Get everything again, I know it's a pain, but it's the best thing to do. |
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mountainous
Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Los Angeles
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:39 am Post subject: Re: Very discouraged with the whole process of finding a job |
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| in Korea. This certain school that I am applying to offered me the job and I got all the documents that i needed for the E-2 visa. I am supposed to leave in two weeks and I recieve an e-mail message saying that the Immigration office had a mishap with my visa and I have to get my notarizied diploma and criminal background check redone. Allegedly I will be able to make a visa run once I arrive but the more i get into getting details the more I think this might be a bad situation. Any suggestions of what I can do or should I just start applying for Non-govermental jobs in the US. This process is taking way to long and I think I am being taken for a ride |
anticipate one lie after another from hakwon frauds, they don't know how to tell the truth about anything, I mean NOTHING, everything and anything that comes out of their mouth is a STINKING fraudulent lie. |
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anyway
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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I have to second the opinion that it wasn't immigration who screwed up. This should be a hard lesson to ye. Never give them a second chance or they will double you up. Next time you get any documents. Get three or four. You will be glad you did.
Apply with GEPIK or EPIK if they're recruiting now. (I think I recently saw an ad from EPIK has a new US-based recruiter, in California somewhere.) May be a hard first year, but the assistance and security of getting paid is not to be overestimated. |
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Roving_gypsy_gurl
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
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I agree. I'm sure things must occaisonally get lost at immi, but it's far more likely that it's your employer who lost the documents.
I'd count myself lucky you found out they were dodgy before you got here, get your documents again, and start the process over.
I know it's a pain and you must be feeling discouraged, but it's worth it to find an employer you can trust here. |
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ernie
Joined: 05 Aug 2006
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when i first came here, i was tempted (by my employer, especially) to arrive with a tourist visa and then do a visa run sometime during the first month... while i'm sure it most cases it'd be ok to do that, the whole idea of working illegally instead of waiting an extra week to be legit seemed fishy to me... so i waited the extra week and i'm glad i did...
IMO, if your employer is so desperate that he can't wait an extra week, then it's not likely to be a very well-run place anyway... if your boss likes to play fast and loose with immigration rules, is he likely to honor your contract? i like to enter a country and be able to be completely honest at customs... having to lie first thing off of a plane (Why are you here in Korea? ummmm... travel?) is not the kind of thing i like to do, and looking nervous just screams 'give me the full cavity search' like nothing else, especially with the way the media likes to portray foreigners around here... also, the 'free trip' to japan sounds great but it's really a whole day of hanging around in buses, airports and consulates... doesn't sound like a lot of fun to me...
definitely play hardball with these idiots... those documents are YOURS, i.e. YOU paid for them, and they need to find them or find another teacher! |
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