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Trevor



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:43 pm    Post subject: American Consulate in Busan for Apostille? Reply with quote

My Korean friend called Busan immigration and was told that the criminal background check could be done at the American Consulate in Busan.

First, is this true? Second, where is the American Consulate in Busan?
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Rumple



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: American Consulate in Busan for Apostille? Reply with quote

Trevor wrote:
My Korean friend called Busan immigration and was told that the criminal background check could be done at the American Consulate in Busan.

First, is this true? Second, where is the American Consulate in Busan?


No, it is not true. That can't even be done at the embassy.

And the APP/consulate in Busan does all of its consular stuff through the embassy in Seoul.
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Trevor



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Re: American Consulate in Busan for Apostille? Reply with quote

I heard that although the embassy/cosulate cannot apostille, they can notarize which, I am told the Immigration department will accept in lieu of an apostille.

By the way, does anybody have the number for the embassy?

Thanks.




Rumple wrote:
Trevor wrote:
My Korean friend called Busan immigration and was told that the criminal background check could be done at the American Consulate in Busan.

First, is this true? Second, where is the American Consulate in Busan?


No, it is not true. That can't even be done at the embassy.

And the APP/consulate in Busan does all of its consular stuff through the embassy in Seoul.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: American Consulate in Busan for Apostille? Reply with quote

Trevor wrote:
I heard that although the embassy/cosulate cannot apostille, they can notarize which, I am told the Immigration department will accept in lieu of an apostille.

By the way, does anybody have the number for the embassy?

Thanks.


You have a mix of fact and fiction going there.

Yes, the embassy provides notarial services, for a fee. But a notary is a statement by a designee of a government that a signature does in fact belong to the person who signed something.

They have a couple different kinds of notarial services. This is from the embassy website:

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Acknowledgement of Execution
An Acknowledgement of Execution is used for legal agreements, business documents, etc. It is also used when more than two signatures are required on the document but all of the parties who must sign are not present. We can notarize (or acknowledge) only the signatures of those who are present to sign in front of us or appear in front of us and verify that they have signed the document.


Quote:
Administration of Oath
An Administration of Oath is used on documents that require a sworn affidavit. This format cannot be used unless all persons who are to sign the document are present.


So yes, Korean immi may accept something notarized, but you can't get it notarized...sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

In terms of calling, telephone inquiries are accepted daily from 9:00-10:00 a.m.and 3:30-4:30 p.m. The Embassy switchboard's number is 02-397-4114.
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Ut videam



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't get a background check notarized at the U.S. Embassy, this is true.

What you CAN do is execute an affidavit at the Embassy, which they will then notarize, stating that your background check is true and accurate. An official of Korean Immigration has indicated in a public forum (Korea Times column) and e-mail correspondence (reposted on this message board) that this constitutes acceptable authentication for applicants in Korea.

Excellent post outlining the affidavit procedure and providing a sample form and language: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=1485586#1485586
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ut videam wrote:
You can't get a background check notarized at the U.S. Embassy, this is true.

What you CAN do is execute an affidavit at the Embassy, which they will then notarize, stating that your background check is true and accurate. An official of Korean Immigration has indicated in a public forum (Korea Times column) and e-mail correspondence (reposted on this message board) that this constitutes acceptable authentication for applicants in Korea.

Excellent post outlining the affidavit procedure and providing a sample form and language: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=1485586#1485586


Really? You can execute an affidavit that YOU YOURSELF make that says the background check is accurate? If that is true, then hell, you can just print up your own report, and execute an affidavit to the same effect.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone out there has successfully executed an affadavit through the embassy, I would like to hear from them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rumple wrote:
Ut videam wrote:
You can't get a background check notarized at the U.S. Embassy, this is true.

What you CAN do is execute an affidavit at the Embassy, which they will then notarize, stating that your background check is true and accurate. An official of Korean Immigration has indicated in a public forum (Korea Times column) and e-mail correspondence (reposted on this message board) that this constitutes acceptable authentication for applicants in Korea.

Excellent post outlining the affidavit procedure and providing a sample form and language: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=1485586#1485586


Really? You can execute an affidavit that YOU YOURSELF make that says the background check is accurate? If that is true, then hell, you can just print up your own report, and execute an affidavit to the same effect.

Sure�and if the report is fake or altered in any way, make yourself liable to a federal perjury charge in the United States, as well as whatever Korea slaps you with for violating immigration laws. An affidavit, after all, is a legal statement under oath, and one executed before a consular officer of the United States in an American diplomatic mission is governed by federal law. Making a false statement under oath is perjury.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ut videam wrote:
Rumple wrote:
Ut videam wrote:
You can't get a background check notarized at the U.S. Embassy, this is true.

What you CAN do is execute an affidavit at the Embassy, which they will then notarize, stating that your background check is true and accurate. An official of Korean Immigration has indicated in a public forum (Korea Times column) and e-mail correspondence (reposted on this message board) that this constitutes acceptable authentication for applicants in Korea.

Excellent post outlining the affidavit procedure and providing a sample form and language: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=1485586#1485586


Really? You can execute an affidavit that YOU YOURSELF make that says the background check is accurate? If that is true, then hell, you can just print up your own report, and execute an affidavit to the same effect.

Sure�and if the report is fake or altered in any way, make yourself liable to a federal perjury charge in the United States, as well as whatever Korea slaps you with for violating immigration laws. An affidavit, after all, is a legal statement under oath, and one executed before a consular officer of the United States in an American diplomatic mission is governed by federal law. Making a false statement under oath is perjury.


This won't fly, and the Koreans won't accept it. The US Embassy has stated as much their web page...
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