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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Kuros wrote: |
| pesawattahi wrote: |
It's like everyone continiously demanding Japan to apologize for the atrocities of WW2. After being nuked and humiliatingly defeated they were occupied and had their constitution rewritten by a foriegner. Since then they have continiously apologized and even made reparation payments.
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I thought the issue was that Japanese heads of states kept going to Yakasuni Shrine and worshipping dead war criminals.
You can apologize all you want, but if Merkel were to pray in front of the graves of Eichmann and Himmler, the world would be questioning her sincerity.
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To get back on topic, I like the spirit of your Armenian genocide comments. But the West would be satisfied if Turkey merely acknowledged the genocide. Its very problematic for Turks to reject that it was a genocide, especially given recent events with the Kurds. And the US is in the best position to criticize the Turks, since we handed them Ocalan after the Europeans refused to do so.
Its hard to be too sympathetic for Turkey. |
I agree. I think it's still a good idea, however, that US backs off on this (which I think we pretty much have for some time now anyway) if only because its not politically expedient right now, not out of any sympathy for Turkey. Really everyone is pretty well aware of the Kurdish situation anyway, and any acknowledgment would be just political theater anyway, even if is necessary theater. They certainly do "owe" us for the Ocalan turnover, but I wouldn't use up whatever goodwill we've earned from that on the Armenian question. I remember reading that the Armenian population in LA was putting pressure on Pelosi via their local congressperson. |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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This is amusing coming from someone who says you should keep your mind open to hear alternative views about space lizards. |
Wow you really are a moron!  |
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igotthisguitar
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Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| "who owns ya baby?" |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Beeyee,
You wouldn't by any chance subscribe to the any of the few dozen or so conspiracy theories where the Jews are plotting to take over the world, would you? |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Beeyee,
You wouldn't by any chance subscribe to the any of the few dozen or so conspiracy theories where the Jews are plotting to take over the world, would you? |
They are? Have they set a date? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Let me check Alex Jones' website. I'll get back to you. |
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Beeyee
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:20 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Beeyee,
You wouldn't by any chance subscribe to the any of the few dozen or so conspiracy theories where the Jews are plotting to take over the world, would you? |
No, do you? |
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