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Gopher

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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: On British Slang... |
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Anybody know this vocab and from whence it comes...?
"The whole camp was at sixes and sevens since the director's long absence." (Anarchy?)
"Nancy Boy." (Something to do with disparaging homosexuals?)
"Poodle-faker." (???) |
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JMO

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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:46 am Post subject: |
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I just consulted my mum about "Nancy boy" as it is more something her generation might use. She said "a poof" or a man that "dresses effeminately."
I would concur with both those definitions, however I've also understood it to mean a "wimp" in some contexts.
Also, you'd tend to say "a nancy" rather than "a nancy boy" as in: "That Gopher and JMO - what a pair of bloody Nancies!"  |
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Gopher

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:56 am Post subject: |
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I say, what does your mum say about poodle-faker? |
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bejarano-korea

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:06 am Post subject: Re: On British Slang... |
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Anybody know this vocab and from whence it comes...?
"The whole camp was at sixes and sevens since the director's long absence." (Anarchy?) |
The camp was in disarray (sp!) The camp collpased into a mess while the
director has been away.
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"Nancy Boy." (Something to do with disparaging homosexuals?) |
You wouldn't necesarrily use the term 'nancy boy' to disparage a homosexual, it would be used to disparage a straight man who is a bit effeminate or who is being a bit soft. It is an old fashioned term and newer terminology has replaced it. (Which is generally more offensive)
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"Poodle-faker." (???) |
It might be regional, never heard of that one. |
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bejarano-korea

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Big_Bird wrote: |
I just consulted my mum about "Nancy boy" as it is more something her generation might use. She said "a poof" or a man that "dresses effeminately."
I would concur with both those definitions, however I've also understood it to mean a "wimp" in some contexts.
Also, you'd tend to say "a nancy" rather than "a nancy boy" as in: "That Gopher and JMO - what a pair of bloody Nancies!"  |
'Big Girls Blouse' is a good northern term for a 'Nancy Boy' BB  |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:03 am Post subject: |
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Gopher wrote: |
I say, what does your mum say about poodle-faker? |
I'll have to ask her later. I have to say I've never heard it before. |
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Big_Bird

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:04 am Post subject: |
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bejarano-korea wrote: |
Big_Bird wrote: |
I just consulted my mum about "Nancy boy" as it is more something her generation might use. She said "a poof" or a man that "dresses effeminately."
I would concur with both those definitions, however I've also understood it to mean a "wimp" in some contexts.
Also, you'd tend to say "a nancy" rather than "a nancy boy" as in: "That Gopher and JMO - what a pair of bloody Nancies!"  |
'Big Girls Blouse' is a good northern term for a 'Nancy Boy' BB  |
Yes, that was the term that also came to my mind when I saw "Nancy boy." Or, "a great wet lump" as me old Dad would have said. |
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Czarjorge

Joined: 01 May 2007 Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:55 am Post subject: |
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British slang is so cute. |
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karma police

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:57 am Post subject: |
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oh, bugger off, laddie!  |
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pugwall
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Ive never heard of poodle faker. |
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peppermint

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:32 am Post subject: |
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are you sure it's poodle faker and not poodlef*cker? |
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Gopher

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: |
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peppermint wrote: |
are you sure it's poodle faker and not poodlef*cker? |
It is poodle-faker for certain. It is in print, in Orwell's Burmese Days. The context is a very arrogant British military officer disdaining spending time with wanna-be elites, the English of the East, in colonial India as "poodle-faking."
And I sincerely hope the British do not *beep* poodles, Peppermint. Or even just talk about it. My world would just not be the same.
Where is my old friend, Jognoguru? Was hoping he might be able to explain some of this. |
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peppermint

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Now that I've got some context:
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1. poodlefaking -Empty social pretentiouness
"He knew the society of those small Burma stations -- a nasty, poodle-faking, horseless riffraff." AND "As for social duties of all descriptions, he called them poodle-faking and ignored them." George Orwell, Burmese Days, 1934; the "he" is an upper-class speaker.
2. poodlefaking- Old RAF term meaning a bit of a ladies man
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=poodlefaking
Sorry for the crudeness, I'd interpreted it as more of an ancestor of "screw the pooch" ( make a catastrophic error or failure), more so than a literal thing |
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Gopher

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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I did not find you crude in the least. Apparently my humor is too dry sometimes.
Thanks for the UrbanDictionary ref. Do you have any information beyond that? Where it originated, for example? Dog shows or something? |
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