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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Cloned Food ( coming soon to a table near you ... ) Reply with quote

EU Allows Cloned Food To Go On Sale In UK Shops



EU scientists say meat and milk from cloned farm animals should be cleared for sale. They admit cloned animals suffer higher rates of early death and disease ... but say there is no food safety reason to keep their products off shop shelves. Wink

YUM YUM !!!

Related: Cloned food on verge of FDA's OK
Burgers from cloned animals 'by 2010'
Cloned meat, dairy make way to the table
GM food must be allowed into Europe, WTO rules

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=2643


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Beeyee



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds delicious.
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Czarjorge



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What, that's bad? I'm eagerly awaiting soylent green, the world's most dangerous other white meat.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FDA Says Cloned Animals Safe For Food Consumption
By LAURAN NEERGAARD, AP Medical Writer
Tue Jan 15, 5:16 PM ET

WASHINGTON - Just over a decade after scientists cloned the first animal, the last major barrier to selling meat and milk from clones has fallen: The U.S. government declared this food safe Tuesday.

Now, will people be forced to buy it?



Consumer anxiety about cloning is serious enough that several major food companies, including the big dairy producer Dean Foods Co. and Smithfield Foods Inc., say they aren't planning to sell products from cloned animals.

And the industry says most Americans would never eat a cloned animal for sheer economic reasons: At $10,000 to $20,000 per cloned cow � compared with $1,000 for an ordinary steer � they're too valuable. They would be used primarily for breeding, to produce a steady supply of cattle that are particularly tender, for instance, or for prize dairy cows.

It would be offspring of clones that consumers would eat.

But it will be hard to tell which foods do contain ingredients originating from cloned animals. The Food and Drug Administration ruled that labels won't have to reveal whether the food comes from cloned cows, pigs or goats, or the clones' offspring, because those ingredients are no different than meat or milk from livestock bred the old-fashioned way.

"We found nothing in the food that could potentially be hazardous. The food in every respect is indistinguishable from food from any other animal," FDA food safety chief Dr. Stephen Sundlof said.
"It is beyond our imagination ... to even find a theory ... that would cause the food to be unsafe."

Still, the government asked producers to continue a voluntary moratorium on sales of meat or milk from clones ... for a little longer ... for marketing reasons. The Agriculture Department said it needed a transition period to get the safety findings to foreign trade partners and food companies.

"This is about market acceptance," USDA Undersecretary Bruce Knight said, adding that he expected this period to last months.

MORE ...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080115/ap_on_go_ot/cloned_meat
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there's good peer reviewed science behind it, cool. I'd toss a cloned cow steak in my basket if the price was right.
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Czarjorge



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we clone and eat you IGTG? I assume you would be a gamey meat with a nutty backend. You would go well with asparagus.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without resorting to links which I wouldn't read, can anyone summarize why people are opposed to cloned food?

GM food is kind of in the same category. I'm all for it. Corn that grows every year without plowing up the fields would reduce wind erosion enormously. It'll keep Iowa from washing down to the Louisiana bayous.
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Beeyee



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Without resorting to links which I wouldn't read, can anyone summarize why people are opposed to cloned food?


Nobody really knows the risks involved. Scientists say that eating cloned young animals could be potentially dangerous but that eating older cloned animals should be okay. The long term safety is obviously unknown.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. What potential dangers are involved? It seems to me, meat is meat.
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The potential dangers are not clearly defined. It is more of a "what if" type situation. The opponents tend to very much rely on this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precautionary_principle
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The precautionary principle is a moral and political principle which states that if an action or policy might cause severe or irreversible harm to the public, in the absence of a scientific consensus that harm would not ensue, the burden of proof falls on those who would advocate taking the action.


They don't have to articulate potential problems. They have to be fully satisfied that no problems could possibly happen.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's kind of what I thought was going on. I'm going to stay in bed all day, behind locked doors unless you can promise me that if I go out, nothing bad is going to happen to me. It smacks a bit too much of Ludditism.

Clearly, things ought to be tested before they go on the supermarket shelves, but as far as I can see, the safeguards are already in place.

The major concern I see is the necessity of keeping a wide range of biological diversity in each species.
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have been altering our environment since our thumbs were of sufficient dexterity. We are just better at it now. There are some issues with who owns GMO crops and "blown seeds" and so on (Monsanto can be evil). But this is how we will feed the world. We need higher crop yields. We need more resilient crops. We need animals that are less prone to disease.

The world can not survive on "organic" platitudes.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excuse me. I had to look out the window to see if the Archangel Gabriel was blowing his horn. This is the second time today you and I have expressed the same opinion. It's good to see sanity has struck you. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
GM food is kind of in the same category.

They'll probably do the same thing and prohibit the labeling of cloned meat.

I'm sure glad I'm vegetarian.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am unilaterally trying to improve the quality of discourse on this site.
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