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[Kuros]

[jkelly80]

[stevemcgarrett]

MilwaukieDave:

One thing I do in no uncertain terms really respect about Obama is that while he didn't back the war in Iraq at the start based on his own principles, which he's entitled to, he rose above partisan politics to finance the troops once they were committed to the field. That to me shows he is realistic, unlike Hillary, who votes for the war and then against further support for the boots on the ground.

Hillary had better be careful: her condescending manner (which Bill shares) can easily morph into the perception that she's a plantation owner with Obama working her fields. That antebellum imagery is unfair but in the racially charged Democratic campaign rhetoric it could very well be conjured up by less educated Black voters backing Obama, thinking of backing him, or wanting to protect him as one of their own. I've seen this play out in local politics in the Black community before and Hill-Bill, as liberals seen as working on behalf of Black interests, haven't had their dose of the medicine they helped make.

As it is now, however, Hillary has Bill rep to ride on in keeping older Black community leaders on their side. Even Charles Rangel D-NY has come out publicly to flatly accuse the Obama staff of raising the race issue in the first place.

Does anyone think this truce between Clinton and Obama will last?

[Milwaukiedave]

Nope, I don't see the truce lasting any more then a week at the most. In fact I'd bet a month's pay on it. My guess is Nurse Ratched and her slime machine will go into full tilt boogie spreading lies about Obama.

In fact, Bill Clinton got in a reporters face when asked about the connection between her campaign and the NV lawsuit. And of course the "official response" is:

[Kuros]

[Ya-ta Boy]

I question the use of words like 'condescend' and 'entitle' in reference to Senator Clinton. These are judgements based on one's own perception, not necessarily fact. In this case, I don't think they are facts.

[stevemcgarrett]

MD predicted:

[Yurim]

I wonder if you might be missing relevant points while packing it with coined terms. Society is tolerant enough that race and appearance isn't the issue as much as the platforms that the candidates are standing on. What leads you to believe there's bickering about race?

[Milwaukiedave]

Now we have allegations of Obama being a "Manchurian Candidate". What next?

January 18, 2008
Dems Target Obama

LAS VEGAS -- False email rumors have been circulating for months suggesting that Barack Obama is some sort of Manchurian Candidate from another culture bent on harming the United States. Hearing John Edwards and Hillary Clinton tell it these days in Nevada, it seems they believe Obama is a Manchurian Democrat, sent from the Republican Party to harm the left's chances of retaking the White House.

Edwards slammed Obama twice
at an event in Las VegasThe way Edwards and Clinton speak, one would be led to believe that Obama is the clear front-runner and that the only way the other two can win is by taking votes away from the popular freshman senator. In separate appearances today, both went out of their way to slam recent comments Obama has made in praise of the Republican Party, and to loud applause.
Speaking to supporters before beginning a nationwide tour, John Edwards took time to claim the mantle of a candidate who can come from behind. "I am not the $100 million candidate. That's the other two guys," he said. "I am the underdog." Before singling out Clinton for taking lobbyist money, a refrain he has long repeated, Edwards turned his attention to Obama. "I have a truly universal health care plan. Senator Obama does not."

Edwards then joined critics of Obama's recent comparisons of his campaign to that of Ronald Reagan, in that both are agents of change. "We know that Ronald Reagan is not an example of change for a presidential candidate who is running in the Democratic Party."

Just half an hour later, joining owners and employees at a small business a few miles away, Clinton echoed the criticisms, citing an interview in which Obama said the GOP was the party of ideas. "My leading opponent the other day said that he thought the Republicans had better ideas than Democrats the last ten to fifteen years. That's not the way I remember the last ten to fifteen years."



Clinton acted as if it were Obama
who led Nevada pollsClinton's shot at her rival came two minutes -- literally -- after her campaign announced a conference call in which Reps. Barney Frank, Corrine Brown and Shelley Berkley would denounce the comments. Frank's sister is top Clinton adviser Ann Lewis, and Berkley represents the Las Vegas-based district from which a large plurality of Democratic caucus-goers will come tomorrow.
Both campaigns sought to portray Obama as the Nevada front-runner despite recent polls showing Clinton ahead. "Senator Obama has an advantage because of the Culinary endorsement," Clark County Commission chairman and Clinton state chair Rory Reid told Politics Nation. "She has significant union support, but the Culinary Union is certainly a factor. They were an endorsement that everybody sought, simply because of their numbers."

Edwards has left Las Vegas and will attend a rally in Oklahoma City later today, the third stop on what the campaign is billing as a nationwide tour. Clinton will hold two rallies, in Elko and in Reno, before joining husband Bill Clinton for a final rally in Henderson, just south of Las Vegas. Obama has rallies planned for Elko and Las Vegas before heading to a Martin Luther King Jr. dinner in Las Vegas.

[Kuros]

[Milwaukiedave]

While there may be no direct reference in the article itself, this is one of the rumors being spread about him. I have no idea what sites you read other then this one, but if you read other sites, I'm sure your aware of it.

There's no need for a direct connection, just as much as there's no need to guess who was behind the caucus lawsuit in Nevada.

[stevemcgarrett]

MilwaukieDave discerned: