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daz1979
Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Location: Gangwon-Do
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 Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: More money in a hagwon? How? |
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Hi,
I have seen so many people saying that you can earn more in a hagwon than at public school, but I don't understand how. Can anyone shine a light?
I have always been against working at PS due to the 40hour week. However, after seeing so many friends taking extended holidays and earning more money for teaching 15 - 20 classes a week, I'm seriously considering EPIK next year.
The way I see it is that I can earn 200k more per month on my base salary for being level 3 on the scale, will teach less hours, have lots of free time to prep, have free time to learn more Korean, can go on vacation and will have my evenings free to earn further income.
I do love my hagwon, as I only work 4-5 hours a day and have a free role in the class, but surely it makes financial sense to work PS, doesn't it? |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| i'm at a hogwan. here about four months. they offer me additional work (which i can and have refused) frequently. making about 3mil a month and still no where near 40 hrs a week. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| mistermasan wrote: |
| i'm at a hogwan. here about four months. they offer me additional work (which i can and have refused) frequently. making about 3mil a month and still no where near 40 hrs a week. |
The wooses working in the public schools here are working year round--even when school is not in session! They are at work eight hours a day to boot! Unless a public school position includes the normal time off during student breaks, I see no advantage , financial or otherwise for these positions. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
| mistermasan wrote: |
| i'm at a hogwan. here about four months. they offer me additional work (which i can and have refused) frequently. making about 3mil a month and still no where near 40 hrs a week. |
The wooses working in the public schools here are working year round--even when school is not in session! They are at work eight hours a day to boot! Unless a public school position includes the normal time off during student breaks, I see no advantage , financial or otherwise for these positions. |
Yes, we are at the school for a full 40 hours per week and we officially only get 4 weeks of paid vacation per year (6 if you re-sign at the same school).
My 2 week vacation last summer started on July 21 and I returned to work for camp on Aug 20.
My winter vacation started on Dec. 26 and I returned to work on Jan 14.
I get Feb 2-10 off for the lunar new year and then I get Feb. 16-Mar.3 off for my home leave.
This is all with full salary and I am off at 4:40 every day, no work on weekends or stat holidays.
Oh, and with the afternoon classes (max of 28 - 40 minute classes per week) I gross over 3 mil per month without doing privates.
It suks to be a PS teacher.
Oh, and as an afterthought, I also get medical, pension, housing, and return airfare each year.
Yup... it really suks to be a PS teacher.
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lowpo
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| regicide wrote: |
| mistermasan wrote: |
| i'm at a hogwan. here about four months. they offer me additional work (which i can and have refused) frequently. making about 3mil a month and still no where near 40 hrs a week. |
The wooses working in the public schools here are working year round--even when school is not in session! They are at work eight hours a day to boot! Unless a public school position includes the normal time off during student breaks, I see no advantage , financial or otherwise for these positions. |
Yes, we are at the school for a full 40 hours per week and we officially only get 4 weeks of paid vacation per year (6 if you re-sign at the same school).
My 2 week vacation last summer started on July 21 and I returned to work for camp on Aug 20.
My winter vacation started on Dec. 26 and I returned to work on Jan 14.
I get Feb 2-10 off for the lunar new year and then I get Feb. 16-Mar.3 off for my home leave.
This is all with full salary and I am off at 4:40 every day, no work on weekends or stat holidays.
Oh, and with the afternoon classes (max of 28 - 40 minute classes per week) I gross over 3 mil per month without doing privates.
It suks to be a PS teacher.
Oh, and as an afterthought, I also get medical, pension, housing, and return airfare each year.
Yup... it really suks to be a PS teacher.
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You can make a ton of money by working after school programs, work at a different school when your school allowes it, rural allowance, travel allowance, and tutoring throught the school. You can still make it home by 4:40 everyday. |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="regicide"]
| mistermasan wrote: |
| The wooses working in the public schools here are working year round--even when school is not in session! They are at work eight hours a day to boot! Unless a public school position includes the normal time off during student breaks, I see no advantage , financial or otherwise for these positions. |
what's a woose? |
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Easter Clark
Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Just to balance the argument against PS teaching:
I basically get 10 weeks paid vacation every year and earn more than enough to be comfortable while saving 60% of my salary. There are always opportunities for after school cla$$es if I want them (sometimes I do, sometimes I don't). I realize that I got lucky with this one, and plan to hold on to this job for as long as I can.
There is more to life than money. Realize that being at school 8 hours a day usually translates into 3 or 4 actual classes a day. True, I am physically at the school for 40 hours a week, teach 18, spend roughly 6 prepping, and several hours in fellowship with the Koreans I work with. Life is good! |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| i also don't know what a "woose" is as such was incorrectly attributed to me. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:16 am Post subject: |
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[quote="endofthewor1d"]
| regicide wrote: |
| mistermasan wrote: |
| The wooses working in the public schools here are working year round--even when school is not in session! They are at work eight hours a day to boot! Unless a public school position includes the normal time off during student breaks, I see no advantage , financial or otherwise for these positions. |
what's a woose? |
Someone who is easy to push around.
In this case, it goes without saying that a public school teacher is off during vacation with full pay.
You have lowered the bar and set the hard work of others back a good century at least.
Congratulations! |
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daz1979
Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Location: Gangwon-Do
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:01 am Post subject: |
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So, for those who have experienced both. Which makes the most financial sense?
How much can you make doing after school classes, presuming that you are not shy of hard work? Are they available every day/week/month? |
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