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sonicmatt
Joined: 04 Oct 2007
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: Have a couple questions on where to teach |
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I was wondering where the best places to teach are? Which of these would you recommend-hagwons, public schools, english villages, or universities? Also, what areas or cities should I look at,saving money is not a big issue right now, i would like to exp. korean culture but also would like to be around westerners from time to time with going out and etc. I welcome any suggestions anyone with exp. living over there would have. Thanks a bunch. |
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Aurora_Redwinters

Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Location: Florida
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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The FAQ's can answer these for you |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Universities are the best, but, like most other systems here, there are very good university jobs and very bad university jobs. With no experience, you either need to have your MA, or be willing to take a low-end university institute job (not much better than a hakwon usually).
English Villages are a joke. Avoid at all cost.
Public school jobs rank well above the average hakwon. More vacation time, but you run the risk of being plopped out in the boonies.
Institutes offer a viable way of getting over here to get the lay of the land, but I don't recommend them for long-term employment. In my opinion, you'd be best served by sticking to the larger organizations in Seoul (YBM, Pagoda, ChungMoon, Wall Street Institute...) where you'll be able to teach adults and generally don't have to worry about pay and housing issues.
You'll get better information if you provide your degree level and experience. Good luck to you, and read the FAQs! |
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Cohiba

Joined: 01 Feb 2005
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: Where |
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Remember "Cohiba's Rule":
Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell dart accessories, cuban cigars or
cowboy boots.
The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.
If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.
This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains.
I, unfortunately, live in Incheon where the FFF factor
is almost in the negative range. I know! |
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PGF
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Where |
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Cohiba wrote: |
Remember "Cohiba's Rule":
Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell dart accessories, cuban cigars or
cowboy boots.
The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.
If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.
This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains.
I, unfortunately, live in Incheon where the FFF factor
is almost in the negative range. I know! |
There are some nice areas in Incheon, like where I am. I can buy deo, dart accessories, and foreign food products here too. If you really want to hang out with a bunch of foreigners fresh out of college, there are at least 7 bars in Incheon that cater to the foreign crowd.
Admittedly, there are some ass end parts of Incheon, but all in all, Incheon is a good place to work and live.
I would never live in Seoul; too crowded, too many foreigners, and everything is overpriced. Incheon has cheap food, cheap rent, and good, friendly people.
Also, it's much easier to meet Koreans and get welcomed into their homes in areas outside of Seoul. For those of us who want to earn money, this translates into "private lessons". It took me all of two months in Incheon before I had a full plate. In Seoul, you'd probably have to go through some shady recruiter who'd scoop up half of your money...... anyway, incheon is good |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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1) Cohiba, we need to hook up for a stogie.
2) Incheon wouldn't be too bad as it is connected by subway to Seoul and, as PGF stated, there are decent things to do there.
3) Depending on where you live in Seoul, though, there are loads of opportunities for privates, with the caveat that you are 'legal' to work them. |
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