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Ya-ta Boy
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Location: Established in 1994
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 Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject: Convention Delegate Totals So Far |
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Jan. 16, 2008
Democrats: 2,025 needed to winClinton: 187
Obama: 89
Edwards: 50
None listed for any other candidate
Republicans: 1,191 to win the nomination
Romney: 42
Huckabee: 32
McCain: 13
None listed for any other candidate
I'll keep an eye out and try to keep the totals updated. If I fall behind, give me a shout.
States included: Iowa, New Hampshire, Wyoming, Michigan |
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| Where are you getting 187 for Clinton? Michigan's delegates do not count toward the number for the nomination. The national Dem party will not seat the delegates from Michigan. |
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Milwaukiedave
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Ya-ta Boy
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:16 am Post subject: |
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Freaking amazing. I didn't think I could get more disgusted with the Democratic party. As a borderline autocrat I'm not sure why this type of elitism bothers me, but it does. Sweet Jesus, no wonder the establishment always carries the Democratic nomination.
Thanks, Dave. I learned something today. I may register as a Libertarian or Indy next time. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| I may register as a Libertarian or Indy next time. |
Bite your tongue. |
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| I won't. I've been a registered Dem for the 10 years I've been able to vote, and I've put up with alot. This may be the last straw. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:15 am Post subject: |
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| Hey, I met George McGovern on the streets of Rapid City, South Dakota in '68 and told him he was a moral midget for supporting Bobby Kennedy over Gene McCarthy. Four years later the Dems nominated McGovern. If I can suffer through that debacle, you can surely suffer Hillary Clinton (who is a nice lady if you meet her face-to-face.) |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Democrats
Clinton 190
Obama 103
Edwards 51
Kucinich 1
Republicans
Romney 54
Huckabee 22
McCain 15
Thompson 6
Paul 2
Giuliani 1
Hunter 1
CNN 1/18 |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Czarjorge wrote: |
Freaking amazing. I didn't think I could get more disgusted with the Democratic party. As a borderline autocrat I'm not sure why this type of elitism bothers me, but it does. Sweet Jesus, no wonder the establishment always carries the Democratic nomination.
Thanks, Dave. I learned something today. I may register as a Libertarian or Indy next time. |
Czar,
No problem. I understand how you feel. There may not be much of choice when November rolls around if Ms. Enivitably wins. We may be yet again faced with choice of the lessor of the two evils. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Czarjorge wrote: |
| I may register as a Libertarian or Indy next time. |
Depending on the state -- some states require primary voters to belong to the party holding the election -- this spiteful act might have the effect of further alientating you from the process. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
Democrats
Clinton 190
Obama 103
Edwards 51
Kucinich 1
Republicans
Romney 54
Huckabee 22
McCain 15
Thompson 6
Paul 2
Giuliani 1
Hunter 1
CNN 1/18 |
Just so I'm clear, those 90 some-od number Clinton is leading by are not actually elected/voted on? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Just so I'm clear, those 90 some-od number Clinton is leading by are not actually elected/voted on? |
See Milwaukiedave's links, above.
Also, we have clarified this before: the American political system is a democratic republic and not a direct democracy. But, this notwithstanding, the American electoral process remains more direct-democratic than that which empowers, say, the Canadian Senate. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
Just so I'm clear, those 90 some-od number Clinton is leading by are not actually elected/voted on? |
Right. But the tally is misleading. Superdelegates can be swayed one way or the other before the convention. Walter Mondale managed to get enough Superdelegates to support him even though he was short 40 delegates in 1984. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
Just so I'm clear, those 90 some-od number Clinton is leading by are not actually elected/voted on? |
Right. But the tally is misleading. Superdelegates can be swayed one way or the other before the convention. Walter Mondale managed to get enough Superdelegates to support him even though he was short 40 delegates in 1984. |
Ah, ok. I find the 'Superdelegates' an interesting premise - kind of like... superheroes  |
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