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Green tea is overrated
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What's your honest opinion of green tea?
Green tea is the very apex of culinary pleasure
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Green tea is far superior to red tea in taste
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Green tea doesn't taste like much but it is far healthier than red tea or coffee
22%
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Green tea is bland and boring, but it isn't so bad if you drink it hot enough
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Green tea is slightly superior to drinking hot water straight
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Green tea tastes like hot water strained through a dirty rag
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I like my tea half green and half red
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Where can I find white tea in Korea?
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I prefer that citron tea in a jar that looks a lot like marmalade
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Coffee, please
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pugwall



Joined: 22 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djsmnc wrote:
pugwall wrote:
Green tea is amazing. one of the greatest thing in the galaxy. Such a more refined drink than coffee.

I am guessing you have never had good green tea prepared properly but only the crappy crappy stuff in the tea bags. Green tea is pretty average in Korea tho and way way too expensive for anything decent. Get stuff sent over from China.

Lipton tea is the work of the devil. I have to use two bags to make a decent cup of that horrible stuff. Get yourself some Yorkshire tea or Tetleys.

Both drinks are equally great.

Koreans drink too much coffee in my opinion way more that other east Asians.



More refined? Have you not had the vast array of coffees prepared every which way around the world? It's not all black stuff in a styrofoam McDonald's cup.

I think all tea is good, especially in its natural form. I'm less keen on the fruity fusion stuff like "Peach cranberry" or in the US around the holiday when they sell "Gingerbread tea"

Gingerbread tea? What the fk? Where do they get the gingerbread leaves?


coffee is a fast drink. Tea is a slow drink for thinking.
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idonojacs



Joined: 07 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A question for fibergirl:

I got some Rooibos Redbush tea during my pilgrimage to Costco. I don't get it. What exactly is it made of? It says it is not caffeinated. It looks like a black tea. But it taste kinda weird, but it also says it is healthy, so I guess that's OK, then.

Do you just drink this stuff straight, or do you put something in it, like Tobasco sauce?

Just kidding.

I was kinda kidding about green tea. It's not all that bad, but the stuff here in the tea bags doesn't have much flavor. There was a greater variety of tea back in the States, much greater, including herbal teas.

I got a bottle of that honey citron tea (actually two, they were taped together). Made a cup or two and wasn't impressed. Found the glop wasn't bad mixed in with soju, though. Could that be what people are really using it for? (Yes, I have had it served to me at school, and I still can't figure it out. So we are supposed to drink it, then eat it, right?)

Do you think this started out as marmalade, which the Koreans mistakenly used for tea, then refused to admit their error for fear of losing face, and kept using it as tea?

I put some of the citron tea on a slice of fresh baked bread tonight and it sure tasted like marmalade. Actually, a little better, thanks to the honey.
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SuperHero



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing green tea has going for it is that it has as much caffeine as coffee.
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visitorq



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rubbish. Green tea is *excellent*, the very opposite of boring, and as has already been said here, there are many kinds - you could try dozens of different varietals from thousands of different places and never get bored (it can be pricey though, for everyday I usually drink loose leaf Taiwanese `long qing` tea, it`s nice).

Basically you sound like one of those people who uses Lipton teabags (=RUBBISH) and knows f-ck all about what good tea is actually supposed be... Go do some research.
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pugwall



Joined: 22 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

visitorq wrote:
Rubbish. Green tea is *excellent*, the very opposite of boring, and as has already been said here, there are many kinds - you could try dozens of different varietals from thousands of different places and never get bored (it can be pricey though, for everyday I usually drink loose leaf Taiwanese `long qing` tea, it`s nice).

Basically you sound like one of those people who uses Lipton teabags (=RUBBISH) and knows f-ck all about what good tea is actually supposed be... Go do some research.


Exactly get yourself some nice tea (The Korean Boseong tea is not bad but a little pricey) a decent teapot with filter and enjoy. Use the tea two or three times, common opinion is the second usage is the best and many throw away the first lot of water. Bliss
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Gatsby



Joined: 09 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While there are no doubt some highly drinkable teas in Korea, others are anything but.

Some among the later bring to mind a quote from Abraham Lincoln:

If this is coffee, please bring me some tea; but if this is tea, please bring me some coffee.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love green tea. I buy the loose kind in several different varieties (can you get loose tea in Korea?) but I like the lower quality pre-bagged tea too.

Black tea (what people in the thread are calling red tea Confused) is okay but I prefer green.

Red tea (rooibos) is only good if you buy it loose. I've tried half a dozen bagged brands and the only one that was kind of okay was mixed with black tea.

Only tried bagged white, not impressed so far.

Coffee requires large amounts of unhealthy sugar (or cream liquor) to make it taste good so I rarely drink it.
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idonojacs



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finding good coffee in Korea is a whole 'nother thread. One that's been done before, natch. I used to roast my own green beans and grind it fresh. I gather you can get good fresh roasted coffee in the Seoul area, but I am not moving just for that. If coffee is high quality, it is drinkable black, but not the cheapo robusta stuff. However, there's always New Sugar, aka saccharine. And a little cream isn't so unhealthy.

Not having seen a reply on my rooibos questions, I googled, myself. It turns out it is not a form of tea tea, but some sort of medicinal herbal tea from a bush. There are claims it has near miraculous healing powers due to its high level of antioxidants. But then green tea is suppposed to have near miraculous healting powers due to its high level of antioxidants, at least in Korea.

Me, I prefer to get my antioxidants in a pill of alpha lipoic acid. Now, that's antioxidants!

Apparently, you are supposed to steep the rooibos a lont time for better flavor. Now that I am not expecting it to taste like black tea, I suppose it's not so bad. I can use a decent non-caffeinated tea. Anyone add anything for flavor?

The stuff from Costco cam in four boxes, each with two sealed bags inside, so it is fresh.

Here's some rooibos links:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A12644020

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooibos

http://www.antiaginglifeextension.com/rooibos_redbush_tea/default.asp?a=1517&c=&p=

http://www.redbushtea.com/
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Troll_Bait



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
The only thing green tea has going for it is that it has as much caffeine as coffee.


That's a popular myth. It probably arose from the fact that, in their dry form, tea does have more caffeine per gram than coffee. However, once you make it into a beverage, black tea has about half of the caffeine of coffee, and green tea has about half the caffeine of black tea.

http://www.stashtea.com/caffeine.htm#COFFEE

Quote:
Does Tea Contain More Caffeine Than Coffee?

While coffee and tea are both sources of caffeine, the amounts of caffeine in any single serving of these beverages varies significantly. An average serving of coffee contains the most caffeine, yet the same serving size of tea provides only 1/2 to 1/3 as much.(Ref.: Caffeine by The Institute of Food Technologists' Expert Panel on Food Safety & Nutrition.) One of the more confusing aspects of caffeine content is the fact that coffee contains less caffeine than tea when measured in its dry form. The caffeine content of a prepared cup of coffee is significantly higher than the caffeine content of a prepared cup of tea.


And there are a lot of additional benefits to drinking tea.

http://www.tealiving.com/Men/tea_vs_coffee.html

Quote:
Health benefits

Tea - research shows that green tea may prevent cancer, restrict blood cholesterol, control high blood pressure, lower blood sugar, suppress aging, deter food poisoning prevent and treat skin disease, stop cavities and fight viruses
see health benefits for more details

vs.

Coffee- no research was found to suggest that coffee may enhance health. Upon reviewing the characteristics of coffee the presence of carbohydrates, minerals, and phenolic acid suggest the possibility of potential health benefits but apparently not substantial enough to be noteworthy

< ... >

Characteristics

Tea - Tea contains tannin, catechin, Vitamin E, Vitamin C, Natural fluorine and Polysaccharides. tannin and catechin have been associated with preventing cancer and heart disease

Coffee - Coffee contains caffeine, trigonelline, chlorogenic acid, phenolic acid, amino acid, carbohydrates, minerals, organic acids aldehydes, ketones, esters, amines, and mercaptans. None of the ingredients in coffee have been associated with fighting disease or enhancing health.


I prefer Chinese green tea to Korean, and you can buy a brand from China, called lu:, at Homever, E-Mart, and Lotte Mart.
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mistermasan



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the chinese word for green is "lu". green tea is "lu cha".

bu yong xie.
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the_beaver



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troll_Bait wrote:
Coffee - Coffee contains caffeine, trigonelline, chlorogenic acid, phenolic acid, amino acid, carbohydrates, minerals, organic acids aldehydes, ketones, esters, amines, and mercaptans. None of the ingredients in coffee have been associated with fighting disease or enhancing health.

Bullshit.
Quote:
Coffee appears to reduce the risk of Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, heart disease, diabetes mellitus type 2, cirrhosis of the liver,[52] and gout. Some health effects are due to the caffeine content of coffee, as the benefits are only observed in those who drink caffeinated coffee, while others appear to be due to other components.[53] For example, the antioxidants in coffee prevent free radicals from causing cell damage.
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stillnotking



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
I love green tea. I buy the loose kind in several different varieties (can you get loose tea in Korea?) but I like the lower quality pre-bagged tea too.

Black tea (what people in the thread are calling red tea Confused) is okay but I prefer green.

Red tea (rooibos) is only good if you buy it loose. I've tried half a dozen bagged brands and the only one that was kind of okay was mixed with black tea.

Only tried bagged white, not impressed so far.

Coffee requires large amounts of unhealthy sugar (or cream liquor) to make it taste good so I rarely drink it.


Yeah, I was interested to see (what I think of as) black tea being referred to as "red tea", which in America means rooibos -- and yes, I know rooibos isn't technically tea. We call chamomile "tea" too. Trivial fact: the correct term for an infusion of anything that isn't actual tea (Camellia sinensis) is a "tisane". Cool

Is "red tea" the British term or something?

QFT on your tea assessments. White tea actually is pretty good if you make it loose leaf, but it always has a very mild flavor. Some people like a more robust tea.

The only tea that brews well from a bag is black tea. Anything else and you're much better off with loose leaf. The best loose-leaf teamaker I've ever found is made by a company called Teavana. It's called the Easy Tea Steeper. Really, really worth it if you love tea. Edit: I originally linked to the "Perfect Tea Steeper" but, really, the "Easy" one is better because it has a detachable filter, making it easy to clean.

OP, if you don't like plain green tea, try a flavored one. Jasmine is popular. Genmaicha is what they serve in sushi bars; it's green tea with a slight rice flavor. Both are really good. Stay away from fruit combinations with green tea -- fruit goes better with white. Pomegranate white tea is excellent & really popular these days.
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mistermasan



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

red tea is black tea. same same. never heard the term "black tea" (hei cha) in china/taiwan. the teas that are dark(er) in color there are refered to as red tea (hong cha).

what we in the US call black tea the chinese call red tea.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So disappointed... I was expecting green tea to be cheap and readily available. It is... but most of the time they cut it with rice of all things and it tastes disgusting. Real green tea costs twice as much as the rice mix shit. Crying or Very sad
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pugwall



Joined: 22 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
So disappointed... I was expecting green tea to be cheap and readily available. It is... but most of the time they cut it with rice of all things and it tastes disgusting. Real green tea costs twice as much as the rice mix shit. Crying or Very sad


Wait till you go to China or Taiwan and stock up
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