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boss says I can't work 2 hagwon jobs?!
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Kiwi Tart



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: boss says I can't work 2 hagwon jobs?! Reply with quote

So I am trying to legaly get a second job onmy E2 visa. Most people have told me all I need to do is get letters of approval, copies of my contracts, and the business licenses, then go down to immigration and get a stamp.

However, my current boss is saying that because I work for a hagwon now, I can not work for a second hagwon.

I don't think this is right, but I can't find more information. Does anyone currently work at 2 hagwons legaly? What's the deal?
Is my boss right, or is he just plain wrong?


Thanks!

K.T.
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TheChickenLover



Joined: 17 Dec 2007
Location: The Chicken Coop

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's plain wrong. I've done exactly what he has said I couldn't do, and I did it legally.

The search function if your friend.

Chicken
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flint



Joined: 11 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheChickenLover wrote:
He's plain wrong. I've done exactly what he has said I couldn't do, and I did it legally.

The search function if your friend.

Chicken


Actually he is right. Your boss, the one who is listed as your employer and sponsor for your Alien Card HAS to give a letter of permission to Immigration allowing you to work at another place and stating that it doesn't interfere with your work at his hagwon. I went through that a couple of years ago when I wanted to work a summer camp. Without that permission you can't get the job added.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's probably in the contract somewhere where you can't harm the business of the school (can't think of the exact verbage right now). If you are working for a competitor then you are breaking that term of the contract.

But as two posters have already eluded to, it could be a situational basis.

Try teaching at an adult hagwon in your area. Many adult academies are looking for teachers this time of year as students are available as they are out of university for the winter break.
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Kiwi Tart



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently teaching at a Kindergarten hagwon.
My second job would be doing business english classes for ONE hour in the morning.

What should I do?
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Suggestion Reply with quote

Tell the other place sorry, and walk away Sad

OR you could do the "if you don't see me teaching then I must not be" routine Twisted Evil

OR you could just RUN as fast as you can Laughing

I am just fooling with you. Honestly, you have few options if the hagwon owner is not going to be forth right and help you out. Many are very controlling when it comes to their employees and seldom like the idea of being compared to another school or institution that might show them up in some way. Too bad, but the harsh reality of the situation.
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you do need his permission, and if he's willing to do it, there should be no problem.

If he's unwilling to let you work there, you have to think of the best way to make him agree to let you work the 2nd job. My suggestion would be a BS story about a sick relative back home, and that you need more money to help pay for an operation, or some such nonsense. The boss won't want to be the 'meanie' in this situation and he'll be more likely to agree to let you work the 2nd job, if reluctantly.
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your boss is your visa sponsor. If he says no, then you can't legally work elsewhere.
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he is saying it is illegal it is wrong.

If he is saying you can't he is right, and within his rights.

He might be saying it's illegal so he doesn't have to say no.

If he says no ask him to find you some O/T to do.

Certainly there is an O/T clause in your contract.

Or find some more students for your Hagwon to attend on the off hours.

Why work for the competition, bring the work into the school if you have the time and energy.

Is your schedule maxed out?
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Paul_Zerzan



Joined: 26 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Offer him a cut.
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Netz



Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Location: a parallel universe where people and places seem to be the exact opposite of "normal"

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul_Zerzan wrote:
Offer him a cut.


QFE
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joewaller



Joined: 16 Apr 2007
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call immigration and ask. The word is that immigration isn't approving another workplace on a Visa. It came up recently where I work. The company wanted me just to add another campus with the company to my visa and it did not get approved. That was Seoul Immigration; it may be different for an Immigration office in another area.
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howie2424



Joined: 09 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possible and the process is as set out in the other thread you have going on this same issue. What your boss probably means is he doesn't want to give you permission to do so, in which case you are SOL.
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MarionG



Joined: 14 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can legally work at a hogwon and
1) a public school
2) a university
You can NOT legally work at a hogwon and another hogwon. This doesn't have anything to do with your contract, it's Korean law...don't ask me
why.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:04 am    Post subject: Re: boss says I can't work 2 hagwon jobs?! Reply with quote

Kiwi Tart wrote:
However, my current boss is saying that because I work for a hagwon now, I can not work for a second hagwon.

If he means:

1) the law doesn't allow you to work at two hagwons, then of course he's mistaken and you can call Immigration to set him straight

or

2) he is refusing to give permission to work at the second school, then that's it. You can't work there legally without it.
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