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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject: Pedophile Korean SMOE teacher Reply with quote

Last month, I read about a Korean teacher in SMOE that was guilty of touching his 12 year old girl students and having them sit on his lap. He denied the allegations, but paid a fine of 20 million won. Now, SMOE has given him another teaching position.


Does anyone have a link to that article? I swear I read about it on Koreabeat or Marmot's Hole, but in their archives I can't find it. Maybe it was somewhere else.
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Zaria32



Joined: 04 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With all the to do about CPN, and "Western" pedophiles, you'd think Korea would really protect their kids. But there was a story in the paper a couple of months ago about a Korean step-father fondling the breests of his step-daughter, and the court said it was "affection."

In my hogwon a male K-teacher was inappropriately touching middle school girls, and the director told him to stop...but after that they went ahead and left him alone with middle school girls in the evening.
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kingplaya4



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans consider each other as all part of a kind of "extended" family. I'm not sure how far this mindset goes when dealing with pedophiles, but I bet they don't consider it on the same level when done by Koreans. A foreigner doing it probably just seems criminal and dirty, while perhaps they view it as "affectionate" when done by a Korean.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingplaya4 wrote:
Koreans consider each other as all part of a kind of "extended" family. I'm not sure how far this mindset goes when dealing with pedophiles, but I bet they don't consider it on the same level when done by Koreans. A foreigner doing it probably just seems criminal and dirty, while perhaps they view it as "affectionate" when done by a Korean.


I've done my share of complaining about Korean culture, but I find it just a bit distasteful that you're accusing them of encouraging/condoning their countrymen to sexual molest children.
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JamesFord



Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: my personal playground

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotticus wrote:
kingplaya4 wrote:
Koreans consider each other as all part of a kind of "extended" family. I'm not sure how far this mindset goes when dealing with pedophiles, but I bet they don't consider it on the same level when done by Koreans. A foreigner doing it probably just seems criminal and dirty, while perhaps they view it as "affectionate" when done by a Korean.


I've done my share of complaining about Korean culture, but I find it just a bit distasteful that you're accusing them of encouraging/condoning their countrymen to sexual molest children.


Yeah, that's one messed up post.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
Last month, I read about a Korean teacher in SMOE that was guilty of touching his 12 year old girl students and having them sit on his lap. He denied the allegations, but paid a fine of 20 million won. Now, SMOE has given him another teaching position.

Zaria32 wrote:
In my hogwon a male K-teacher was inappropriately touching middle school girls, and the director told him to stop...but after that they went ahead and left him alone with middle school girls in the evening.

Throw in the stories of the Korean teachers at the English Villages, and it becomes a joke.

"We're doing this (new E2 regs) to protect the children." Pfft. Bunch of fucking liars.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotticus wrote:
kingplaya4 wrote:
Koreans consider each other as all part of a kind of "extended" family. I'm not sure how far this mindset goes when dealing with pedophiles, but I bet they don't consider it on the same level when done by Koreans. A foreigner doing it probably just seems criminal and dirty, while perhaps they view it as "affectionate" when done by a Korean.


I've done my share of complaining about Korean culture, but I find it just a bit distasteful that you're accusing them of encouraging/condoning their countrymen to sexual molest children.


I read it more as "Korean turn a blind eye when Koreans do it." I didn't read it as encouraging/condoning so much as blind eye/head in the sanding.

But I could be wrong as to his intent/meaning.
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Benicio



Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you go:

http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/224984.html

Not that kiddy fiddling is acceptable in any way shape or form, but Korean on Korean gets labelled as "affection" far more than it should.
They generally turn a blind eye to Kteachers who are a bit frisky with students. Some of the things I saw K-teachers do at the girls' middle school I worked at made me feel very, very uncomfortable.
No one at the school, besides me, felt that any lines had been crossed.

Here's the equation we arrive at:
Foreigner on Korean= terrible, bad foreigner
Korean on Korean= that's just the way it is here
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benicio wrote:
Here's the equation we arrive at:
Foreigner on Korean= terrible, bad foreigner
Korean on Korean= that's just the way it is here


That applies to soooo many situations here, doesn't it? Oh, Korea!
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Benicio



Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems to be the all-encompassing philosophy:

2 schoolgirls accidentally killed by a US military vehicle in 2002= entire country erupts into mass demonstrations and venomous hatred against the "evil" Americans.
Kim Jong-Il and his father have intentionally killed millions of Koreans and keep 20-22 million of their brethren enslaved in the world's largest concentration camp- North Korea= let's just not talk about that, it's not prudent to discuss or think about it at this time or maybe ever!

That is just one example....
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Benicio!
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kingplaya4



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, some people misconstrued my post. First of all let me say the only thing I know for a fact is that many Koreans consider the whole race as part of one big extended family. The second part of it was supposition.

I'm sure a Korean pedophile would not be a popular character, all I'm saying is I bet even though they would dislike him, they might use the affection card so as to not have to punish him too harshly. I don't in any way think Korean culture condones it, despite the aforementioned court case with the father who touched his stepdaughter.

I just believe (with some circumstantial evidence) that it is a different level of offence when committed by a foreigner.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingplaya4 wrote:

I just believe (with some circumstantial evidence) that it is a different level of offence when committed by a foreigner.


This applies to any and every crime committed in Korea. It even applies to non-crimes, like talking to a Korean girl or not letting Mr. Kim Ajossi cut in front of you.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benicio wrote:
Here you go:

http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/224984.html

Not that kiddy fiddling is acceptable in any way shape or form, but Korean on Korean gets labelled as "affection" far more than it should.
They generally turn a blind eye to Kteachers who are a bit frisky with students. Some of the things I saw K-teachers do at the girls' middle school I worked at made me feel very, very uncomfortable.
No one at the school, besides me, felt that any lines had been crossed.


Here's the equation we arrive at:
Foreigner on Korean= terrible, bad foreigner
Korean on Korean= that's just the way it is here


I have to agree on the bolded part. I remember working around some teachers that were just way too "friendly" in how they touched the girl students.

Even if that "is the way it is here" - I just think in 20 years Korea is going to be where some western countries were. Kids coming back with lawsuits and stuff saying they were sexually abused by their teachers. It must happen here too. It happens a lot in North America were there are clear boundaries. Here we have a culture where it is "acceptable" if a teacher marries a former student. (Which actually did happen with one teacher I worked with for years...kind of freaked me out.)
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ryouga013



Joined: 14 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Pink wrote:
Here we have a culture where it is "acceptable" if a teacher marries a former student. (Which actually did happen with one teacher I worked with for years...kind of freaked me out.)


I'd say it depends on the situation as far as the "acceptability" of a teacher and former student hooking up. In the hagwons catered to children, yeah, that's kinda a creepy, but there is the chance that there wasn't anything going on with them (in the illegal or creepy sense) when the teacher was their teacher and then 10 years down the line they meet again and something happens.

If this were applied to colleges/Unis too, does that make me bad for having a crush and having a social dinner/wanting to go out with my Japanese teacher? (regardless of what you say, I still wanted to Laughing )
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