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Gopher
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 Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: Why do Scientologists Ape Military Protocol...? |
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Anyone catch this in latest, "unofficial-biography" publicity on Tom Cruise, Scientology's alleged second-in-command? The more that is revealed, the more fanatical and indeed insane this organization appears...
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Pluto
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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I really don't know when Tom Cruise went wrong. I posted his latest clip earlier though I think it has since been taken off the web.
You can view some of Cruise's insanity here if you're up to it. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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I think more than most in Hollywood, Cruise lives in a fantasy world. And that is saying quite a lot. They label us "SPs," or "Suppressive Persons," by the way. Did you know that?
| L. Ron Hubbard wrote: |
| SUPPRESSIVE ACTS, 1. actions or omissions undertaken to knowingly suppress, reduce or impede Scientology or Scientologists. 2. the overt or covert actions or omissions knowingly and willfully undertaken to suppress, reduce, prevent or destroy case gains, and/or the influence of Scn on activities, and/or the continued Scn success and actions on the part of organizations and Scientologists. |
| L. Ron Hubbard wrote: |
| SUPPRESSIVE GROUPS, those which seek to destroy Scn or which specialize in injuring or killing persons or damaging their cases or which advocate suppression of mankind. |
| L. Ron Hubbard wrote: |
| SUPPRESSIVE PERSON, 1. he's solving a present time problem which hasn't in actual fact existed for the last many trillenia in most cases, and yet he is taking the actions in present time which solve that problem. The guy's totally stuck in present time, that is the whole anatomy of psychosis. 2. a person who rewards only down statistics and never rewards an up statistic. He goofs up or vilifies any effort to help anybody and particularly knifes with violence anything calculated to make human beings more powerful or intelligent. A suppressive automatically and immediately will curve any betterment activity into something evil or bad. 3. a person who doesn't get case gain because of continuing overts. 4. the person is in a mad, howling situation of some yesteryear and is "handling it" by committing overt acts today. I say condition of yesteryear but this case thinks it's today. 5. an SP is a no-confront case because, not being in his own valence he has no viewpoint from which to erase anything. That is all an SP is. 6. those who are destructively antisocial. 7. a person with certain behavior characteristics and who suppresses other people in his vicinity and those other people when he suppresses them become PTS or potential trouble sources. 8. is one that actively seeks to suppress or damage Scn or a Scientologist by suppressive acts. 9. a person who has had a counter-postulate to the pc you are handling. Abbr. SP |
Suppressive Person Defense League
...just when you thought IGTG was the most twisted kid on the block. Note how opposing Scientology necessarily means opposing humanity and "mankind" [I hear feminists screeching at this] to them. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Reminds me of masons. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| Reminds me of masons. |
Exactly.
But shhhhh ... don't tell Gopher we know his "dirty" little secret. |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Cruise is arrogant and stupid enough to believe that he's one of the Chosen to guide the rest of us along. I think his idiocy but have turned the much brighter Nicole Kidman off. Remains to be seen if Katie realizes her mistake anytime soon.
igotthisguitar:
That's rich coming from a guy who's probably a founding member of the Bill Ayers Fans of the Peter, Paul, and Mary Kumbayah Fan Club.
If I had a hammer, I'd sing it in the morning.... |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: |
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What I find spooky is the head of scientology is actually shorter than Tom Cruise.
I believe this is a complete online edition of the Barefaced Messiah, the real history of L Ron.
http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/bfm/bfmconte.htm
Just hilarious. |
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| I think most people are aware of the legend that Arthur C. Clarke bet L. Ron Hubbard he couldn't start a religion and that's where Scientology come from, but did you know that while Hubbard was alive the Church of Scientology maintained a navy? I'm not sure if they still do, but in the 80's the Scientologist purchased an island of the coast of Washington State and actually docked a number of WWII era warships. Wacky. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: |
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National Lampoon's spoof of Scientology...
http://tinyurl.com/36lyos
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The father of Diarrhetics[TM] is Elron Hubbard, or "Captain Love Log," as he is lovingly referred to by thousands of nubile, subservient Suckbunnies[TM], Hosemonsters[TM], and Minionsluts[TM] around the globe.
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That's actually a bit unfair, since according to Bare-Faced Messiah(which is decidedly anti-LRH), Hubbard seems never to have had sex with any of the teenaged "messengers" who were at his beck and call 24/7. According to an ex-messenger interviewed by Miller, Hubbard just seemed to get off on having them around, and never tried anything physical, even when they were handing him his towel after he got out of the shower(always in his underwear.)
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| What I find spooky is the head of scientology is actually shorter than Tom Cruise. |
That weirded me out too. Little man syndrome manifested in a religion? Maybe the all are.
Anyways, for those of you who watched Tommy's video (very weird video) here are the other 5 of that series. It is just bizarre to watch.
http://www.slate.com/id/2182452/fr/rss/
Is Tom sane? He can't seem to finish a sentence, and his laugh is very unsettling. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| Is Tom sane? He can't seem to finish a sentence, and his laugh is very unsettling. |
His manner and facial expression in the vid (and the pic, above). Zealotry. That is what spooks me. He is a true believer. Probably capable of anything, under the right conditions. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: |
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In the video he said they they are "the authority" on mental health issues. Also, that only scientologists will stop to help after an accident.
He laugh is just weird. When he can't finish a sentence he laughs. It is weird.
In the closet and in a cult. Dude must be torn up inside. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: |
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In the closet and in a cult. Dude must be torn up inside. |
It goes hand in hand. The cult of Scientology collects information on you under the guise of psychotherapy and gains your trust. Since they are the authority on medical matters, doctors and actual psychologists will never touch you. Any attempt to leave the organization will be met by blackmail. According to L Ron Hubbard's son, back in the day when Hubbard was associating with the Soviets, attempts to leave the organization would be met with violence as well.
Its like a cult with mob aspects. Its pretty disgusting. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I've read that. They make you tell your deepest, darkest secrets and videotape it. That is just evil.
Though, I must admit I agree with some of what they say regarding the use of pills on kids. Pharmaceuticals are being used as a means of social control in the classrooms far too often (of course they have legitimate uses in the right situation with the right person). Too bad a good argument is lost on such a bad source. Reminds me of a certain 10 term congressman.... |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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According to L Ron Hubbard's son, back in the day when Hubbard was associating with the Soviets, attempts to leave the organization would be met with violence as well.
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Kuros:
Is your source for Hubbards' Soviet associations the Penthouse interview with Nibs? Because Miller does not give much credence to that interview, and doesn't confirm a lot of what Nibs alleged. I can't recall what, if anything, Bare-Faced Messiah said about Hubbard having Soviet ties, but I don't think they would have been very significant ones.
From Penthhouse:
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He was very interested in several things that were the creation of what some people call the Moon Child. It was basically an attempt to create an immaculate conception --except by Satan rather than by God. Another important idea was the creation of what they call embryo implants --of getting a satanic or demonic spirit to inhabit the body of a fetus. This would come about as a result of black-magic rituals, which included the use of hypnosis, drugs, and other dangerous and destructive practices. One of the important things was to destroy the evidence if you failed at this immaculate conception. That's how my father became obsessed with abortions. I have a memory of this that goes back to when I was six years old. It is certainly a problem for my father and for Scientology that I rememoer this. It was around 1939, 1940, that I watched my father doing something to my mother. She was lying on the bed and he was sitting on her, facing her feet. He had a coat hanger in his hand. There was blood all over the place. I remember my father shouting at me. "Go back to bed!" A little while later a doctor came and took her off to the hospital. She didn't talk about it for quite a number of years. Neither did my father.
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Miller devotes a chapter to Hubbard's brief association with a bohemian Crowleyite cult, but doesn't report anything about magic rituals involving aborted fetuses, and in fact lists that as one of the dubious details in Nibs' account.
http://tinyurl.com/lvus6
(Anti-Scientology page, with a Penthouse cover displayed) |
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