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Kuros
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 Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: Romney wins NV, Obama wins delegates, HRC wins popular vote |
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Romney gets a shocking +50% of the vote in Nevada!
So does Hillary, but Barack is close behind. Edwards finishes around 5%.
Nevada results
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Gopher
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Not shocking. Mormons dominate Nevada politics -- especially in heavily-populated Clark County. You can find them in the county courthouses, in the law libraries, in the commissions, etc. And Harry Reid, to cite but another example, will remain one of Nevada's U.S. Senators for as long as he likes. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Turnout is low on the Strip.
5,000 were expected, but it seems like 2,000 would have been too many.
Clinton wins the Flamingo 121 to 120 voters. Your vote does count in this primary! Meanwhile, Obama won Caesars: 82 to 79.
Actually, I rather like the idea of this voting by casino. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Las Vegas Review-Journal is offering a nice interactive on this election. Check it out. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Interactives are welcome.
Hillary dominated the Hispanic vote
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| Hispanics made up 14 percent of Democratic caucus-goers in Nevada today, and they overwhelmingly supported Clinton. She got 64 percent support from Hispanics, while Obama got 24 percent and Edwards got 9 percent. |
This is bad news for Obama in Texas and California.
But she even edged out Obama on the male vote. Economic weakness is helping Hillary. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Since Nevada was almost uncontested by the Republicans, it doesn't help to clarify the picture on that side of the aisle. Unfortunately, with Paul coming in second and 'surging' to 15%, that will give his supporters here at Dave's another week of false hopes and hysterical postings.
Clinton's third win (counting Michigan) indicates the tide has decided which way to flow. She can pull women, men, Hispanics and divide the Black vote. In fact, Blacks have an advantage because they have two sympathetic candidates. Edwards, finishing so far back is now going to have to decide if he wants to quit before he's flat broke and embarrassed.
Obama has a new problem. His 'spiritual advisor' who appears to be the minister at his church, is turning out to be a loose cannon. A story was on CNN about him saying the Clintons did to the Blacks what Bill did to Monica. Obama is going to have to do something about nonsense like that. He has been using his church membership to appeal to people who care about that kind of thing, but if it turns out the minister has a record of spouting crap like that from the pulpit, it's going to undermine Obama.
While it'll be close next week in South Carolina, Clinton will probably take it. If she does take South Carolina, the nomination is hers to lose. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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When the going gets rough, the Obama campaign whines:
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| We currently have reports of over 200 separate incidents of trouble at caucus sites, including doors being closed up to thirty minutes early, registration forms running out so people were turned away, and ID being requested and checked in a non-uniform fashion. This is in addition to the Clinton campaign�s efforts to confuse voters and call into question the at-large caucus sites which clearly had an affect on turnout at these locations. These kinds of Clinton campaign tactics were part of an entire week�s worth of false, divisive, attacks designed to mislead caucus-goers and discredit the caucus itself. |
The mud-slinging begins!  |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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ahhhh...The old tricks are often the best. Nixon used to send out staff to put up "Rally Cancelled" posters over his opponents' posters.
Politics down in the trenches is often less than the sedate, high-flown oratory people sometimes imagine it is. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
ahhhh...The old tricks are often the best. Nixon used to send out staff to put up "Rally Cancelled" posters over his opponents' posters.
Politics down in the trenches is often less than the sedate, high-flown oratory people sometimes imagine it is. |
Plouffe is a tool.
He's suggesting the lawsuit, which failed, lost Obama support in Clark County (where Vegas is). That's ridiculous. Its up to Obama's team to get out the vote!
Clinton's campaign appears to be better organized on the ground. The caucus goers were 59% female and 41% male. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| The mud-slinging begins! |
Was that the same thing when Clinton mentioned the "fun" part of the campaign awhile back. It must be. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| The mud-slinging begins! |
Was that the same thing when Clinton mentioned the "fun" part of the campaign awhile back. It must be. |
미국 선거가 재미겠다! |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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This just in: Obama actually wins Nevada!
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| Hillary Clinton was the clear preference of a plurality of Nevada Democrats, but Barack Obama won more delegates -- 13, to Clinton's 12, Obama's campaign says. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| The way caucus states distribute delegates is really peculiar. I don't understand a bit of it. There must be some Electoral College aspect to the system. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Since Nevada was almost uncontested by the Republicans, it doesn't help to clarify the picture on that side of the aisle. Unfortunately, with Paul coming in second and 'surging' to 15%, that will give his supporters here at Dave's another week of false hopes and hysterical postings.
Clinton's third win (counting Michigan) indicates the tide has decided which way to flow. She can pull women, men, Hispanics and divide the Black vote. In fact, Blacks have an advantage because they have two sympathetic candidates. Edwards, finishing so far back is now going to have to decide if he wants to quit before he's flat broke and embarrassed.
Obama has a new problem. His 'spiritual advisor' who appears to be the minister at his church, is turning out to be a loose cannon. A story was on CNN about him saying the Clintons did to the Blacks what Bill did to Monica. Obama is going to have to do something about nonsense like that. He has been using his church membership to appeal to people who care about that kind of thing, but if it turns out the minister has a record of spouting crap like that from the pulpit, it's going to undermine Obama.
While it'll be close next week in South Carolina, Clinton will probably take it. If she does take South Carolina, the nomination is hers to lose. |
What's wrong with people having someone they believe in? You seem to take issue with the political process being subverted by the people. I find it refreshing. By the way, do you know the history of the reform party in Canada? If not, you should Wiki it. It's amazing what a groundswell of dissent from a few passionate people can turn into. Just ask Canada's current Prime Minister, or the the PQ in Quebec. I have great hopes for what will come out of what is clearly a reaction to American politics being dominated by elite interests, and Paul is just the start. |
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
Interactives are welcome.
Hillary dominated the Hispanic vote
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| Hispanics made up 14 percent of Democratic caucus-goers in Nevada today, and they overwhelmingly supported Clinton. She got 64 percent support from Hispanics, while Obama got 24 percent and Edwards got 9 percent. |
This is bad news for Obama in Texas and California.
But she even edged out Obama on the male vote. Economic weakness is helping Hillary. |
Hillsy dominating the Latino vote (for the record they don't really like the term Hispanic or so I've been forcefully told) makes me nervous for Obama even beyond the nomination. The stereotype of Latinos and AAs disliking each other may be in play here, and an Obama nomination might work against the Dems if a savvy Rep candidate can play to Latinos. |
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