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Norith
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safeblad,
You are an as*shat yourself. The OP specifically said that he was born and raised in America. His countrymen are Americans. He might be of Korean ethnicity, but he's of American nationality. |
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safeblad
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Norith wrote: |
safeblad,
You are an as*shat yourself. The OP specifically said that he was born and raised in America. His countrymen are Americans. He might be of Korean ethnicity, but he's of American nationality. |
tomayto tomahto... |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| komerican wrote: |
| gyopos would receive more regard in korea [...] if their numbers were higher in the US. |
Nonsense. They would still be Americans that can't speak Korean fluently. |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:58 am Post subject: |
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Is the OP upset at Koreans or Americans in Korea? Op was vague and both scenarios are being addressed by replies.
I have never seen Americans in Korea chastising or caring about non Korean speaking Kyopos. Even if they are from the midwest. |
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komerican
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| dogbert wrote: |
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| There are about 5 million Jews in the US. When gyopos become that large a demographic group then they will get better treatment. If gyopos were 10% of the US population like the blacks we would be a very significant force. What you're asking for yurim is better "lip-service" or PCism for Korean Americans and that happens only when the demographic numbers are favorable, imo. |
God forbid. |
not surprised by your response dogbert. The truth is multiculturalism in the US is mostly a lot of hype. I appreciate your honesty.
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| komerican wrote: |
| gyopos would receive more regard in korea [...] if their numbers were higher in the US. |
Nonsense. They would still be Americans that can't speak Korean fluently. |
no, a more politically powerful korean american community in the US would translate into more power in korea, both economically, politically, and socially - like jewish americans in Israel. |
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suneV
Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Location: At the Flop
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Gyopo gripe |
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| It would be nice if people realized that even though we look Korean, Gyopos are essentially the same as Americans. |
2) Kyopo's from LA give Korean-Americans a very bad name. The most racist people I've ever met are Korean Americans from LA. Go to asiasfinest and find the threads where they talk about killing all the white English teachers in Korea. All LA Gyopo. A white dude goes to a club in Seoul and some douchebag named Kim (dressed like a black dude, but scared of black dudes) will try to mess with you. They are terrible people.
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Yeah, the ones I meet in The Tin Pan Bars in Hongdae (which I will never frequent again) seem to be complete and utter sh#theads.
I have to say all of the 'gyopo's that have grown up purely in America I've met, I see and interact with them as Americans not American / Koreans etc. They just seem the same as any other AMerican in
general and the fact they have Korean genetics has littel influence on their personality.
Though I will say and I know not why this is - all the women seem to be hyper anal, uptight and very nervy types. And usually very HOT too! I hate to generalise, but it's been the case with nearly every one I've met.
They do seem to have a hard time reconciling the fact that they've come to work in Korea but are not being accepted as either Americans or as Koreans by - the Koreans. For this I sympathise with them very much - it must be tough. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| komerican wrote: |
| gyopos would receive more regard in korea [...] if their numbers were higher in the US. |
Nonsense. They would still be Americans that can't speak Korean fluently. |
no, a more politically powerful korean american community in the US would translate into more power in korea, both economically, politically, and socially - like jewish americans in Israel.[/quote]
And it has nothing to do with how Mr.Kim, average Korean guy on the street, would view Korean-Americans. Mr.Kim would still tsk tsk on their failure to learn the language of their heritage. |
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komerican
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
And it has nothing to do with how Mr.Kim, average Korean guy on the street, would view Korean-Americans. Mr.Kim would still tsk tsk on their failure to learn the language of their heritage. |
Anyway, it's a hypothetical. There aren't going to be that many Koreans in the US to make a huge difference, certainly not as many as Jews or blacks.
The US illegalized Asian immigration for decades and today Asians only account for about 3% of the US population. It�s a very small number. The US is actually quite homogeneous.
Sure there are blacks but that is a legacy from slavery days. And Hispanics and Mexicans, were either already there or just walked over illegally. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| It must be annoying for gyopos when Koreans gasp in amazement that I can introduce myself in Korean (after being here three years) but get frustrtated when a born-and-raised US citizen can't speak Korean fluently. On the other hand, they don't have to put up with little kids saying 'Hi! Hi! Hi! Hi!' to their backs. All in all, though, I think that gyopos returning to Korea can only be a good thing in terms of Koreans getting some desperately needed perspective on the world. |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| komerican wrote: |
The US illegalized Asian immigration for decades and today Asians only account for about 3% of the US population. It�s a very small number. |
4.4% (so 13,244,000)
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The US is actually quite homogeneous.
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The United States has 31 ancestry groups with more than a million members.
the United States of America on Wikipedia |
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nicholas_chiasson
Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: Samcheok
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| the US is so multi-ethnic many people have no clue what country their family name even is. |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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my foreigner friends in korea hate dave's esl. 
they work for normal korean companies with normal jobs. traveling to mongolia in their vacation time and investing in the kospi last year, getting tips from their colleagues seems to be a hit right now for them.
they feel pretty accepted and have visceral moments as well. i imagine their feelings of acceptedness comes from both living in a diverse environment back home, as well has having a proper demeanor. also working in a normal korean company environment and having a good education helps a lot. |
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nicholas_chiasson
Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: Samcheok
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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-Of course your foreign friends are happy
-they make more money then we do, and they can afford to blow 300k at a booking club. If I had that much money, I'd be eating room service in the Seoul Hyatt and drinking XO and not living on soju and currey rice. And I would say korea is great. For the record I've been MUCH pooer than I am in Korea. And it was more fun. Korean fun is expensive fun. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| nicholas_chiasson wrote: |
| -Of course your foreign friends are happy |
They don't exist. It is all an act. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| komerican wrote: |
| There are about 5 million Jews in the US. When gyopos become that large a demographic group then they will get better treatment. |
It's not about being a larger demographic group. Although that doesn't hurt.
It's all about where you are in regards to positions of power.
The Jews will always be above the Koreans in America in that respect. They have enormous influence over the banking sector and even Hollywwod in that country.
And in terms of lobying power in Washington, the Gerogians (the country) are much organized and have a lot more sway than the Koreans. |
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