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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Dan wrote: |
before you guys start looking down your proverbial nose, remember that illegal foreign workers working in crappy jobs that no one else wants, exists in every developed country in the world.
At least the korean government is being proactive in trying to correct this behavior. In Cali Davis tried to push giving licenses to illegal immigrants so they could drive to their illegal jobs. |
I don't think we're talking about this to look down our noses at Korea's treatment of foreign workers, but rather watching this with concern because we're also foreign workers in Korea.
Even if we don't think it can actually happen to us, we're closer to the Korean 3D workers' situation than most of us ever were to migrant farm workers back home. |
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ratslash
Joined: 08 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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ah, ok.
makes sense now. |
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J.B. Clamence
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Son Deureo! wrote: |
| I don't think we're talking about this to look down our noses at Korea's treatment of foreign workers, but rather watching this with concern because we're also foreign workers in Korea. |
As long as we are legal, I don't really see how this would be an issue for us. And as for being close to the issue, in all seriousness, I don't think many (if any) of us can seriously claim to relate to the plight of 3d workers. I'm not saying that we shouldn't care what happens to them, but I think I would be trying to fool myself and put on airs (in the romanticizing sense) if I tried to consider myself as being in the same boat as these people (no pun intended).
And as for judging the clampdown, I can understand arguments that it's not a smart thing for the Korean government to do. But whether it's a smart move or a stupid move, I wouldn't call it unjustified. The bottom line is that it's their country, they have laws, and they have every right to enforce those laws according to their law. After all, they're just sending people home, not executing them.
I wouldn't judge a person who decided to try to work illegaly here, as long as they were willing to face the consequences without complaint if that day ever came. Apparently, the day has come for many. Do I feel sorry for them? Sure I do. But their illegal activities have been tolerated up to now, and now that's over. They knew what might happen by working here illegally, and if they didn't, they should have known.
As for the Bangladeshi suicide, I can't really understand that. I'm not sure exactly what was going on in his life, but he would rather die than go home? My first thought was, "Damn, Bangladesh must be hell!" |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| As far as I know.. most who come here (or go anywhere) spend an enormous amount of money trying to go through all the channels (either legally or illegaly) to get the chance to come to Korea (or elsewhere) with hopes of making a decent income.. often times with a number of people back home relying on them. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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Korea Seizes 70 Illegal Foreign Workers on First Day of Crackdown
Teams of police and social workers are searching job sites known as employing migrants' cheap labor mainly barbershops, restaurants, bars and clubs. The widespread inspections will mainly focus on foreign workers who have illegally entered Korea and resided here for more than four years. Foreign workers found without proper permits will be held in regional immigration offices for several days and then deported to their home countries.
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200311/200311180002.html
 Why look in barbershops, restaurants, bars and clubs? Aren't most migrants in other places?
Perhaps, this relates to
Russian Hookers are all being deported
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=12282 |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:39 am Post subject: |
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The government is firmly determined to carry out its efforts to round up every undocumented foreign worker before next August when the new work permit system is set to be implemented.
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Anyone know what the new permit system that will be in place? |
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Mankind
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| Anyone know what the new permit system that will be in place? |
Ya, it's supposed to provide better, protection and pay for the workers. Believe when I see it. The government has screwed this up so bad. First they put no resourses towards forcing employers to pay wages, before the return home order. Lots of employers upon hearing about the plan stopped paying. The second stupid thing was this silly idea of 'being here over 3 years illegally means you must go home first than return to Korea in a couple months'. Nobody trusted the government to keep their word. Would you. They should have given all illegals amnesty, new visas and been done with it.
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