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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Post count is necessary to determine whether someone just got off the boat or has actually maybe contributed something to this board and knows a few people around here. |
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panthermodern

Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: Taxronto
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Corporal:
I respectfully disagree.
I think that a low post total has nothing to do with experience or "how many people you know".
For example: I know of a poster - Chonbuk who has been here longer than I (+7 years) and has a low total post because they just do not post often.
In addition, since when does "knowing people" mean that your opinion is worth more?
I think a posters reputation is more valuable then their post total.
Are you implying that your posts have almost twice the value of mine because of the total number of posts that we respectively have?
The post number is simply that: the number of posts and is no indication of the value of said posts.
Post totals are only since the early spring of 2003 and thus a high post total poster could have less than one year of experience. |
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The Lemon

Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with panther on this, too. Having that post count number there encourages some people to go on posting binges in the "Song Titles" thread, or "Let's try to get this locked" thread to increase their little number. It's an arbitrary number that has nothing to do with anything.
But the post count figure is site-wide, not just on the Korea board. I think we have to live with it.
It is helpful for people to know which user is relatively new. The "joined" date can tell me that.
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Rule 4: If the thread turns from serious discussion into a chatroom the thread may be locked or deleted. Users are encouraged to use pms for chatting.
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This is very subjective in my opinion but I feel there is a lot of this that goes on. |
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We don't enforce this too often. What it's saying is, if a thread just ping-pongs back and forth for several pages between only two users, they might as well spare us all and PM each other. Maybe we're coming close to that now - thanks to Corporal for joining the discussion. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Post Count debate.
I, for one, would be very happy to cut down on my high number. Perhaps mainly because it is too high.
But the one good thing I like about is it gives you a sense of a poster who you haven't come across before. Particularly when you see he/she has only had less than 10 posts and suddenly jumps into some heated debate. Kind of indicator of something.
Just in general gives you an indication of things. Anyone with over 50 posts I feel has somewhat established that they who they say they are and I can get a good feel for where they are coming from based on other posts.
Other than that, anyone who has anything between say 300-2500 is pretty irrelevant as either way they are a very established poster and means nothing in regards to low number or high number if they are an established poster. |
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rudyflyer

Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Location: pacing the cage
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:19 am Post subject: |
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I've been laying out of this one as a former mod but I will say this about post counts. I personally don't see much value in post counts as they don't tell the story about what a poster is doing or in the case of a mod how many posts they have on the mod forum (I'd say 1/3rd to 1/2 of my posts are there). As Lemon said joined date is (was) a factor in my decisions on things on if a person needed a gentle reminder of the rules here (a recent joined date got a "newbies break" vs somebody who has been here a while) or needs to be dealt with in a harsher manner
I will say this to people who get upset when their post counts goes down because of prunning or brag about their post counts. Folks this is a discussion board on the internet one of thousands if not millions out there, they don't mean a hill of beans in the big picture and if your goal in life is to "be the first person on Daves to have 3000 posts" and put that on your resume, you need to rethink your goals in life or get a life
ok enough of my views |
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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panthermodern wrote: |
a) I think that a low post total has nothing to do with experience or "how many people you know".
b) In addition, since when does "knowing people" mean that your opinion is worth more?
c) Are you implying that your posts have almost twice the value of mine because of the total number of posts that we respectively have?
d) The post number is simply that: the number of posts and is no indication of the value of said posts. |
a) Who said that?
b) It doesn't.
c) No: you're inferring that.
d) No s.h.i.t, Sherlock. What was your point again? |
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panthermodern

Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: Taxronto
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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panthermodern wrote:
a) I think that a low post total has nothing to do with experience or "how many people you know".
b) In addition, since when does "knowing people" mean that your opinion is worth more?
c) Are you implying that your posts have almost twice the value of mine because of the total number of posts that we respectively have?
d) The post number is simply that: the number of posts and is no indication of the value of said posts. |
I did.
I agree
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c) No: you're inferring that. |
Well then, I have been told haven't I. See below, I had to infer as I can't understand what your trying to say.
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d) No s.h.i.t, Sherlock. What was your point again? |
My point is that post totals mean nothing more then the total number of posts posted. Please, I thought your smarter than having to resort to vulgar language.
Lets look at your post again shall we:
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Post count is necessary to determine whether someone just got off the boat or has actually maybe contributed something to this board and knows a few people around here. |
OK:
A) Why is a post count "necessary to determine whether someone just got off the boat"? How does it do this?
I came by plane myself, but, a post count number is not a reliable way to tell someone's experince level. If I am misunderstanding your "boat" metaphor please tell me and the rest of the readers what you are indeed talking about.
B) Please explain "... actually maybe contributed something to this board and knows a few people around here."
For that matter define or explain: "... actually maybe..."
What do you mean by "...knows a few people around here." and how is it at all relivant.
Sorry if I missinterperated your post but the only thing that I do understand is that you think that post totals are relivant and important.
I still disagree.
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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panthermodern wrote: |
Please, I thought your smarter |
You thought my smarter what? At least attempt to use English correctly, for the sake of all that's good and holy.
Furthermore, YOU'RE the vulgarian, you *beep*! |
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panthermodern

Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: Taxronto
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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wooops!
heh he eh ehh
"I thought you were smarter..."
I never said I was smart.
BTW: I still have no idea what you were talking about.
As for being a vulgarian, your rootin' tootin' right!
I hope you called me a *beep* rather than a shit!
CYA
MODERATORS! Corporal called me a "BLEEP"!
Isn't there a rule about that somewhere? |
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Tiger Beer wrote: |
But the one good thing I like about is it gives you a sense of a poster who you haven't come across before. Particularly when you see he/she has only had less than 10 posts and suddenly jumps into some heated debate. Kind of indicator of something.
Just in general gives you an indication of things. Anyone with over 50 posts I feel has somewhat established that they who they say they are and I can get a good feel for where they are coming from based on other posts. |
Having a slow day, Panthermodern? Read this post by TB, slowly and carefully. It says what I said, in different words.
Post count is relevant. It's not the be-all and end-all. All clear now? Still confused? |
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panthermodern

Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: Taxronto
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Slow day, yes.
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Post count is necessary to determine whether someone just got off the boat or has actually maybe contributed something to this board and knows a few people around here.
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But the one good thing I like about is it gives you a sense of a poster who you haven't come across before. Particularly when you see he/she has only had less than 10 posts and suddenly jumps into some heated debate. Kind of indicator of something.
Just in general gives you an indication of things. Anyone with over 50 posts I feel has somewhat established that they who they say they are and I can get a good feel for where they are coming from based on other posts. |
Same thing, No.
I do agree with Tiger Beer, "...sense of a poster..." is a very good point but not "...necessary...". "Necessary" implies required, manditory, and/or 100% required, which I still argue it is not.
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Corporal

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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Purposeful stupidity...I understand now. |
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jaebea
Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Location: SYD
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:01 am Post subject: |
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Post count has always been a bit of a "my d*ck is longer than yours" count in some of the other forums I've come across, but I find that this board doesn't subscribe to as much of it.
I consciously regard the opinions of those whose presence is known and felt on this board; I won't name names for fear of missing some, but they know who they are. This is due to the fact they'll put in some interesting opinion or slant on the thread at hand. Their piece is valued because they have interacted with a great number of other threads and know the "lie of the land", so to speak.
This board also values the opinion of those who may have not so many posts (moreso than other forums), perhaps because of the possibility that these people may have been lurking for a while. However, their contribution to the thread is diminshed in the eyes of some, because they may not have 100/200/10000+ posts to their name.
So it is (in my opinion) safe to say that the post count under someone's name does have some impact on the perception of the validity and authority of that poster. However, it's tough to get a real good clue, especially if they have been happy to sit on the sidelines to watch the fireworks for a long time.. :)
I've just written a longwinded spiel on what people already know.
:D
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Tiger Beer

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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:18 am Post subject: |
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It has absolutely no relevance whatsoever. There are many very prolific writers and characters that have a very low post count but make a significant impact on the board.
There are many people on board who I'm surprised and shocked their post count is so low as their prescense is so strong. They still get all the respect and acknowledgement and so forth as anyone else.
To me it seems extremely irrelevant. But I don't see any harm or 'bad' coming from it by any means. I find it more an interesting statistic and a measure for when you see a new poster you've never seen before and trying to figure out their history/background.
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ratslash

Joined: 08 May 2003
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:19 am Post subject: |
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in some ways it matters, in other ways it doesn't.
eg a guy could have been over for 20 years, knows more about korea and esl teaching than the lemon, kimcheeking and tiger beer all put together, but his posts may be disregarded as newbie who knows nothing coz his post count says 1. or you get someone who just does that song titles game and has a 1000 posts but has nothing useful to say about korea or anything for that matter. swings and roundabouts. neither here nor there. doesn't really matter.
you have to judge whether a person has anything good to say yourself and not rely on things such as post counts. |
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