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Kitten



Joined: 30 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: tae kwon do Reply with quote

My BF is looking a tae kwon do class instructed in English. Do you have a ideas? FYI: We live in Seoul.

Thanks.
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cheeseface



Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Location: Ssyangnyeon Shi

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look in the Korean Herald they usually have adverts for English classes of different martial arts in the classified bit.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've gone over this. You do not have to do taekwondo in English. It's really not that hard to learn it in Korean. You won't get much about the "do" part, but the rest will be OK.

Does your boyfriend still have his problem?
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OBXman7



Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to do TKD competitively in the States before coming to South Korea. I was actually really let down at how it is taught here. In the States it was taught as a self defense, here they focus a lot on forms, more so than my gym in the States. There are several reasons for that, but it is also personal preference. I took it for the physical and SD aspects. You do not need to know Korean to take TKD here, no worries there.

Also, I was fortunate. The director of my gym made an exception for me and stayed after hours for one-on-one training. In most cases, TKD academies are directed at children and offer a high school class at best. High school level classes in Korea are very advanced mind you.

I am a big fan of Muay Thai. There are TMT gyms everywhere, and it is a much more effective martial art in regards to conditioning and application. PM me if you want any more info, I'd be glad to help.
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anyangoldboy



Joined: 28 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:21 am    Post subject: Re: tae kwon do Reply with quote

Kitten wrote:
My BF is looking a tae kwon do class instructed in English. Do you have a ideas? FYI: We live in Seoul.

Thanks.


There is one the other end of Itaewon towards Hanam (spl) It's in the same building as Marachess(spl) night...They say they do it in English
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bondjimbond



Joined: 29 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm told by my TKD-black-belt HI that hap ki do is a lot more effective/useful (and fun). I've asked him about setting me up with lessons (as he speaks at least half-decent Korean), but he's flaked out on me a lot. This reply, then, is to a) suggest hap ki do as an alternative, and b) find out if anyone knows of a decent gym, preferably (hopefully) not too far from Balsan station...?

I've done Muay Thai as well, and it really is amazing. I'd be happy to get into that here, too.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OBXman7 wrote:
I used to do TKD competitively in the States before coming to South Korea. I was actually really let down at how it is taught here. In the States it was taught as a self defense, here they focus a lot on forms, more so than my gym in the States. There are several reasons for that, but it is also personal preference. I took it for the physical and SD aspects. You do not need to know Korean to take TKD here, no worries there.


I really have to disagree with this statement. I found that my two studios in the States were much, much more into forms and traditional taekwondo. Here, at both of my studios, it's been all about freesparring and competition.

I think the studio style depends on the kwanjangnim, not the country.
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Temporary



Joined: 13 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hapkido sure didn't help the guy I fought. I broke his nose and cracked one of his ribs.
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OBXman7



Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atavistic wrote:
OBXman7 wrote:
I used to do TKD competitively in the States before coming to South Korea. I was actually really let down at how it is taught here. In the States it was taught as a self defense, here they focus a lot on forms, more so than my gym in the States. There are several reasons for that, but it is also personal preference. I took it for the physical and SD aspects. You do not need to know Korean to take TKD here, no worries there.


I really have to disagree with this statement. I found that my two studios in the States were much, much more into forms and traditional taekwondo. Here, at both of my studios, it's been all about freesparring and competition.

I think the studio style depends on the kwanjangnim, not the country.


That's right. My experience was just a let down because of my personal preference and in comparison to what I was accustomed to in the States. You are right though, all depends on the director's style.
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Temporary



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest with you I am not impressed with TKD. We have black belt TKD guys come to our gym and they get their butts whooped. When they go to spar against any of us they just plain get beaten into a pulp.

Plus TKD guys have really crapy conditioning.
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OBXman7



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Temporary wrote:
To be honest with you I am not impressed with TKD. We have black belt TKD guys come to our gym and they get their butts whooped. When they go to spar against any of us they just plain get beaten into a pulp.

Plus TKD guys have really crapy conditioning.


What discipline do you do Temporary? These days it's all Muay Thai for me. Conditioning is much better and the kicks are much more effective. At my old TKD gym in the States we did ground work as well. Here, it was only point sparing and forms....not what i signed up for.
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Temporary



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't find Muay Thai although I did it for about 6 months in Busan. I am currently in Kyuk Too Ki in Changwon. Which is not very well know in Korea or popular, but its very fun and very effective.

Kyuk Too Ki from my understanding was developed by the military. Its a form of Kickboxing that borrows from many other Martial Arts.

We have Boxing, Muay Thai, Kickboxing, Karate, even some TKD, also we have some Capoira kicks (which I suck at). The main difference between Kyuk Too Ki and Muay Thai is that it has a different tempo and no music while fighting. Stance is a bit different as well. We do have elbow strikes as well. My gym is very active in the amature circuit, (kickboxing and Muay Thai) We usually do fairly well, have lots of amatur champs. Gym is owned by an ex -pro (Champ)

One word about Hapkido.... The world is not made of hand grabbers!

But TKD can be fun for people its a choice people make.. Its a good sport its just a sport I don't care or like.
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OBXman7



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to Seoul yesterday for the Spirit MC tourney. Good stuff, was televised as well.
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petethebrick



Joined: 25 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to do TKD competitively in the States before coming to South Korea. I was actually really let down at how it is taught here. In the States it was taught as a self defense, here they focus a lot on forms, more so than my gym in the States. There are several reasons for that, but it is also personal preference. I took it for the physical and SD aspects. You do not need to know Korean to take TKD here, no worries there.

Are you sure it was WTF taekwondo back in the states? I know in Ireland nearly all the schools teach ITF which sounds like the self-defence type taekwondo you're talking about.
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junkmail



Joined: 08 Jan 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Temporary wrote:

Kyuk Too Ki from my understanding was developed by the military. Its a form of Kickboxing that borrows from many other Martial Arts.


I don't about the military part, that sounds a bit like a Korean attempt to give it a Korean history, soon they'll be digging up cave paintings to show it's historically Korean Laughing
Otherwise it's great. Two main branches; one teaches submission wrestling as well as stand up skills. As Temporary says iit's basically a mixed martial arts, certainly it borrows more from Muay Thai and boxing than from Taekwon Do.

I should point out that Koreans have IMHO have shown greater ability to excel at other countries martial sports/arts than to produce their own No problem with that and in fact I admire it. They have for example VERY high quality Judo and excellent boxers as well as some very goof MMA players. This is probably due to the nature of these clubs as they attract the more 'grass roots' Koreans than the ones we've been exposed to working as ETs.
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