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| I would not date a cigarette smoker. |
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| I would date a person who only smoked cigarettes occasionally (only when they drink, etc.). |
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| I would be fine dating any cigarette smoker. |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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 Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| faster wrote: |
| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Sexual preferences have been moulded by millions of years of natural selection. Human behaviour is driven greatly by evolutionary processes. It�s a thoroughly evidenced slice of reality. |
Sure, but not necessarily in ways you understand..... |
There's plenty of evidence that it is. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| crsandus wrote: |
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In the immortal words of Bartleby the Scrivener....
"I would prefer not to."
and yes, I honestly have used that to drop the hammer on a girl.
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Wow, "drop the hammer" is right, I think I'd rather get rejected with a line like "I wouldn't date you in a million years you ugly freak." than a line like yours. If I got the ugly freak rejection, I could at least hate the girl and think that she was shallow and not worth my time, but if a girl told me "I would prefer not to." I'd think that she actually thought about the idea and logically came to her conclusion (not that that's necessarily true). I'd be saddened.
CoH: Not an attack on you but just a random comment
OP: I'd date a light/social smoker but I'd personally see it as a negative feature and she would have to have many positive features to outweigh that one negative. The smoking wouldn't bother me so much in the dating process but it'd bother me in a serious relationship and it'd be a major roadblock if it came to marriage/kids. Heck, I'd fight tooth n nail to get her to quit if it was time to have kids. |
I didn't take it as an attack, and I agree with you-I've used it only once-the girl had the attitude that she was the sun-I've only used it once. |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Flash Ipanema wrote: |
| So basically what you're saying is that in order for a foreign woman to get a man in Korea we have to be a young-fertile-non-smoking-yet-smoking-hot-thin-as-a-Korean-girl because evolution dictates it? |
Let�s summarize what I�ve said: I feel refusal to date a smoker is crazily picky and a little arbitrary if the smoker works out and the non-smoker is a couch potato, which is statistically common. I�ve just never come across this extreme aversion to tobacco in conversations in real life. |
Don't suppose you left whatever country you are from before they banned smoking there? People talk about smoking a lot more since they started banning it. Everyone has an opinion on the smoking bans.
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| Human beings, all animals, are influenced hugely by sexual instincts. Sex, mating is very important and to forego sex and companionship because the other party smokes tobacco to me is, well, odd! |
Smokers don't smell good. They don't taste good either. If we're still on the evolutionary thing, I can't imagine that we evolved to like sex with someone who smells sickly. |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Draz wrote: |
| Don't suppose you left whatever country you are from before they banned smoking there? People talk about smoking a lot more since they started banning it. Everyone has an opinion on the smoking bans. |
The point stands - I've never come across this extreme view. Banning smoking in public places - good. Not dating someone who smokes - make sure you're a looker. 
Human beings are horny. I was under the impression people would date a babe or a hunk regardless of whether they lit up, but perhaps not.
| Draz wrote: |
| Smokers don't smell good. They don't taste good either. If we're still on the evolutionary thing, I can't imagine that we evolved to like sex with someone who smells sickly. |
Fine and dandy. The legions of smokers in Korea probably aren't missing much. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Human beings are horny. I was under the impression people would date a babe or a hunk regardless of whether they lit up, but perhaps not. |
Exactly. At the end of the day, it's what turns your crank. Women are a bit more resistant in the early stages to some external factors. But are many women going to say no to Collin Farrel because he lights up? The only differences is the amount of complaining the person does to her/his friends. The woman might carp more. |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Human beings are horny. I was under the impression people would date a babe or a hunk regardless of whether they lit up, but perhaps not. |
Exactly. At the end of the day, it's what turns your crank. Women are a bit more resistant in the early stages to some external factors. But are many women going to say no to Collin Farrel because he lights up? The only differences is the amount of complaining the person does to her/his friends. The woman might carp more. |
I never said I'd turn down a fling with a hot smoker, just that it would be a huge black mark against him, and I wouldn't take him too seriously as a long-term prospect. It's just one of those things I would choose not to live with. Even if he was also a player and a drug addict, I don't think I could get past the smoking.  |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Draz wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Human beings are horny. I was under the impression people would date a babe or a hunk regardless of whether they lit up, but perhaps not. |
Exactly. At the end of the day, it's what turns your crank. Women are a bit more resistant in the early stages to some external factors. But are many women going to say no to Collin Farrel because he lights up? The only differences is the amount of complaining the person does to her/his friends. The woman might carp more. |
I never said I'd turn down a fling with a hot smoker, just that it would be a huge black mark against him, and I wouldn't take him too seriously as a long-term prospect. It's just one of those things I would choose not to live with. Even if he was also a player and a drug addict, I don't think I could get past the smoking. |
That's another facet of female personalities. Some women, while waiting for Mr Right, kind of seek out men that aren't too hard to kick out of bed. |
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Human beings are horny. I was under the impression people would date a babe or a hunk regardless of whether they lit up, but perhaps not. |
Not all human beings are horny. Also, not all of them are as horny as others.
Finally, I don't think everyone would date "a babe or a hunk" regardless of whether they lit up. Clearly the responses here so far prove at least that! |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| littlelisa wrote: |
Not all human beings are horny. Also, not all of them are as horny as others.
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That is also evident from the poll results.
Speaking as a male, I would argue that any male who, having chatted to Lee Hyori for an hour and got on exceptionally well with her (and then because of her lighting a cigarette no longer viewed her as of long-term mate potential) as having either (or both of):
(A) abnormally low testosterone levels (and wildly low libido),
(B) such a powerful aversion to smoking to the extent that it's a form of mild psychosis.
In either case, adherents should seek pharmacological help right away. |
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little mixed girl
Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: shin hyesung's bed~
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| i wouldn't date a smoker. as soon as i find out that the person smokes, i lose interest. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| An occasional smoker or someone who mostly smokes when we're out drinking is ok. A heavy smoker who chain smokes in the house would be a problem. |
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