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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or nerdy Koreans moving to America to make video games for other nerdy Koreans.
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I also recall reading about Russian prostitutes who had some big scheme to try to target Canadian men in particular for marriage.. because there was some law that women in Canada if they even claim that the man abuses them can get half of the wealth immediately.. or something to that effect..


I'm from Canada, and I've never heard of such a law, at least not dictating that an ALLEGATION of abuse leads to an IMMEDIATE 50/50 split. And that's the kind of thing that I'd imagine people would be screaming about if it did exist.

This sounds like something that the less reputable members of the "men's rights" movement would make up, as an example of just how bad things have gotten under the matriarchy. And, it has a nice anti-immigrant angle as well.
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Dan



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Sunny Glendale, CA

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
Or nerdy Koreans moving to America to make video games for other nerdy Koreans.


almost true, but we actually make games for the nerdy americans. the koreans are being handed by other koreans.

And now a word from my sponsor:

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little mixed girl



Joined: 11 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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elmer



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: cowtown

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Does this bother you? Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:

He said that Canada has a "really good" social welfare system, and because of this many Koreans with handicapped children, or handicapped adults want to go to Canada to take advantage of all the "free" services.

Is this really the case? Is it really so easy for people from other countries to immigrate to Canada and then just go on welfare?


No. When you immigrate to Canada you have to go through an extensive health check. If you have any major illness that would cause "an excessive burden" to the health care system, you can be denied. Even if if was not your original intention. so, I imagine if it's obvious you want to immigrate to take advantage of "free health care" (haha mo fo, what's all that tax for???, not to mention Alberta and (I think) Ontario DO PAY insurance) you wouldn't get very far.

As one who has sponsored a spouse, I have promised that my husband not collect any social assistance for at least 3 years.

There ARE some guidlines to avoid what the OP has suggested. Does sound like a sweet deal if you could do it though, but I think i'd be pretty resentful as a taxpaying individual Confused
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anae



Joined: 13 May 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elmer you are lucky. I am on the hook for 10 years. Laughing
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Does this bother you? Reply with quote

No. When you immigrate to Canada you have to go through an extensive health check. If you have any major illness that would cause "an excessive burden" to the health care system, you can be denied. Even if if was not your original intention. so, I imagine if it's obvious you want to immigrate to take advantage of "free health care" (haha mo fo, what's all that tax for???, not to mention Alberta and (I think) Ontario DO PAY insurance) you wouldn't get very far.

As one who has sponsored a spouse, I have promised that my husband not collect any social assistance for at least 3 years.

There ARE some guidlines to avoid what the OP has suggested. Does sound like a sweet deal if you could do it though, but I think i'd be pretty resentful as a taxpaying individual Confused[/quote]

Thank you for clearing that up for me. At least now I will be able to respond to questions about this issue. There is a false perception throughout the world that Canada is some kind of panacea, with free everything. (yeah, I wish it were too Rolling Eyes )

Back in Saskatchewan, health care is not free by any means. There are deductable fees, and more and more things are not covered by medicare.
I have found that services here in Korea are a bargain, especially dental care,(Canada could learn some lessons from Korea), so I wonder why Koreans have this weird idea that moving to Canada would be better.

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jaebea



Joined: 21 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the case in point is the lack of specialised care for physically and mentally handicapped children. It doesn't take a genius to see that they are socially shunned in Korea, moreso than other countries, and seen more as a liability than an asset.

You see these tearful shows on Korean TV where kind hearted souls are taking care of their handicapped children, or those dumped by other, less scrupulous parents. They make it like it's a huge deal, when thousands of like parents go through the same tribulations as these people, in Australia, Canada, the US, and almost every other western country.

I'm sure you could appreciate that there's a difference in intensive care of a mentally handicapped child and crowning your teeth.

jae.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure you could appreciate that there's a difference in intensive care of a mentally handicapped child and crowning your teeth.

jae.[/quote]

Yes, good point. But this is not the only time I have been faced with this question. It was just the latest example that came to mind.

I doubt that a lot of that specialized care you spoke of is free in Canada either, if it exists. (perhaps in Toronto and Vancouver, but not many other places)
I have heard many comments from Koreans of how they want to move to Canada where everything is FREE. Laughing Laughing

The only thing I found free in Canada was my freedom to choose any method of starvation I saw fit. Shocked

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Alvin Stardust



Joined: 12 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems that Koreans ignore anything to do with 'handicaps', those people with mental problems, etc. Especially the young ones. It may have something to do with 'a loss of face' in the family. Perhaps there aren't enough places to care for those people. How many times have you noticed certain kids in your class with obvious learning difficulties (autism, etc) that are ignored by parents/schools etc? The amount of kiddies parents I've told; 'your child really needs glasses' and next day they have 'em (to the parent's credit, but...). It's like the parents are so busy sending kids off to hogwons to notice that something may be wrong. You'd think their teacher at school would say something. It seems to be the same way with handicapped people, whether mentally, or physically... ignore it. They don't want to face the fact, particularly if it has anything to do with their family circle...
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is dramatically needed , obviously, is for koreans to improve conditions for disadvantaged people in their own country, so that they wouldn't have to go to some new country to find a bit of caring and support... "Asia presents a relentless assault course to the disabled".
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