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Obama isn't ready to be president
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But America - not to mention the rest of the world - has been ready for a guy like him for a long time. About eight long years I'd say.


It would seem you are saying that Bush's predecessor was significantly better. Hmmm...who could that have been? Ah yes, I remember now, it was Bill Clinton, 'the partisan hack'. Confused
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
If it looks like McCain will be the Republican nominee, I think that most Democrats serious about winning will back Obama.

Too many people can't stand Hillary, and Bill's recent hatchet-jobs on her behalf are causing him to lose some popularity.

People want change, and I think that Obama has a broad enough base and enough key endorsements to win the whole thing.


RTeacher, I hope you are right about that, but even as an Obama supporter I wonder if the hatchet job and hit and run lies coming out of the Clinton campaign will do him in.

On the Republican side, if it came down to to McCain and Romney, it is going to be hard to watch. I REALLY dislike Romney and some of it outright has to do with his religion. It is also his attitude and how he is trying to be a Reagan cloan. McCain, I don't agree with the guy, but I respect him.

I agree if it came down to McCain vs. Clinton it's going to be a VERY close race. All you have to do is look at the electoral college from the last two elections. She would have to win most of the big states like Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Penn, California, NY and NJ as well as a mix of smaller states in the different parts of the country.
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merryprankster



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rteacher wrote:


Romney does have a lot more delegates.

McCain just makes more news when he wins a state than when Romney wins one.


Delegates don't matter much at this point, no matter what Romney would have you think. Come Super Tuesday, the perceived front-runners from both parties will see a huge spike in numbers of delegates.

I think McCain's going all the way. Mind you, as a New Hampshire voter I was a Richardson man myself. Now I've taken to making phone calls for Obama in my spare time to try to make sure that Hillary doesn't win...doesn't look good though.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kuros wrote:
Of course he's not ready!

What has he done during his political career?

He made a righteous speech at the DNC Convention in 2004.

He made a great speech at the JJ dinner in Iowa, and then won the Iowa caucuses.

He finished top at his class in Harvard law.

This is not a great resume for an aspiring President.




And what has Hillary done? She's been in the Senate no longer than Obama. Barack was also a state senator prior to heading to Washington, so he's got experience at elected positions at varying levels of the US government. And Hillary? Well, she was the cankled cut-throat hag who resided in the White House for eight years, and the governor's mansion in Arkansas prior to that. But since when does riding the coattails of your husband count as experience? She's earned her reputation as a calculating 13itch, and half the country already despises her. She's the leftist version of GWB, yet is likely more competent (who couldn't be??). Obama, on the other hand, is the most charismatic figure in US politics since Reagan or JFK, and also happens to frame his ideas in a way that speaks to the independents and moderates of the US - you know, the people who are sick and tired of dealing with the constant *beep* that partisan hacks like the Clintons and the Bushes bring to the table.


Great attack on Hillary...

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Is Obama ready to be president? Who knows. But America - not to mention the rest of the world - has been ready for a guy like him for a long time. About eight long years I'd say.


...poor defense of Obama.

Citing how (you believe) the rest of the world feels about Obama as a reason to vote for him is pretty crummy.

Although, I should point out that everytime you call Hillary a 'bitch,' another woman voter makes up her mind.
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Matt_22



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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But America - not to mention the rest of the world - has been ready for a guy like him for a long time. About eight long years I'd say.


It would seem you are saying that Bush's predecessor was significantly better. Hmmm...who could that have been? Ah yes, I remember now, it was Bill Clinton, 'the partisan hack'. Confused




Bill Clinton was more competent than GWB, but who isn't? Doesn't mean he's not a partisan hack. What made Bill so popular at home and around the world was his charisma, and his wife has none of that. So why should anyone get excited about some cold soul-less version of Clinton-lite?




Kuros wrote:


Although, I should point out that everytime you call Hillary a '*beep*,' another woman voter makes up her mind.



And every time Hillary and Bill work to smear Obama behind the scenes they lose more black, moderate, and independent votes - should Hillary eventually win the nomination.
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