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squinchboy
Joined: 16 Dec 2006
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 Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: Question about severence pay... |
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| I am going to be finished with my contract at a large adult chain school at the end of February. And then I will probably start working at a public school beginning in March. The problem is I am worn ragged by my job, and I need a break. Also, Finishing my contract on the 29th of Feb. and then moving to Busan or somewhere else in two days is just not enough time. So, I am curious as to if my employer would legally be able to stiff me out of my severence pay or if it will just be slightly reduced. Anyone know??? |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| two days is one day too much. |
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MarionG
Joined: 14 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have any vacation days? I'm leaving 8 working days before the expiration of my contract, and using vacation days. They're going to pay me the full severence3.
What your boss does is pretty much up to him. ASK him? Legally doesn't have much to do with it unless he really shafts you. I'd offer to have it prorated so you can leave a week early. He's going to say yes or no, or slk fkj;we iorfjs pigja, which essentially means no. |
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squinchboy
Joined: 16 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| No vacation days. Adult schools don't give them out. |
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saw6436
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon, ROK
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Adult schools don't have vacation? WTF? |
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squinchboy
Joined: 16 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| To clarify further, I can't pick my vacation days. We work at least 20 session days a month. If we are finished with the 20 before the month ends, then we get a day off or two. Yeah, it sucks... |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| squinchboy wrote: |
| To clarify further, I can't pick my vacation days. We work at least 20 session days a month. If we are finished with the 20 before the month ends, then we get a day off or two. Yeah, it sucks... |
I worked at two hogwans that had the same type of schedule, but we got paid vacation on top of that, and we could choose any time except busy season (PS winter/summer holidays) to take it.
You're getting screwed. |
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MarionG
Joined: 14 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Korean Labor law says that for 2008, 15 days vacation is mandatory. Schools do not "give out" vacation days. It's a right, and it's the law. |
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Whistleblower
Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| The school I work at is offering full time teachers after a year's service only 10 days vacation per year plus 1 day off a month which totals 22 days off in total. Is that alright? Would you push for 15 days off paid vacation per year? I did speak to the management about it and they said that the Labor Standards Act is only for Koreans and not E2 Visa holders. I said I wasn't E2 and that I have the same rights as a Korean but still they said no. They said that they have a separate Labor Act for the company which has been approved by the Government and that they can do what they like and the only reason that they provide 1 day off per month is because that occassionally we work Saturdays. Does this make sense? Should I contact Labor? |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I did speak to the management about it and they said that the Labor Standards Act is only for Koreans and not E2 Visa holders |
THAT is certainly a new one!
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| They said that they have a separate Labor Act for the company which has been approved by the Government and that they can do what they like |
Wow, the arrogance! Give Labor a call and get their reaction. Tell us if they laugh out loud. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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| The school I work at is offering full time teachers after a year's service only 10 days vacation per year plus 1 day off a month which totals 22 days off in total. Is that alright? Would you push for 15 days off paid vacation per year? I did speak to the management about it and they said that the Labor Standards Act is only for Koreans and not E2 Visa holders. I said I wasn't E2 and that I have the same rights as a Korean but still they said no. They said that they have a separate Labor Act for the company which has been approved by the Government and that they can do what they like and the only reason that they provide 1 day off per month is because that occassionally we work Saturdays. Does this make sense? Should I contact Labor? |
The truth is that Koreans often don't get that either. My manager didn't get 10 days off. He worked every day. We got our 10 paid days on paper, but some time before that only part of the 10 days were paid.
You can talk about Labour standards all you want, but this is Korea which is rather corrupt and the government won't do much for you. Who wants to keep going to the Labour Board hagwon after hagwon. It seems pointless to me. I have no desire to work for hagwons anymore, because I do want to get my maximum vacation, and hagwons often don't want to give you even what you are entitled to at a bare minimum. |
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maddog
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| MarionG wrote: |
| Korean Labor law says that for 2008, 15 days vacation is mandatory. Schools do not "give out" vacation days. It's a right, and it's the law. |
Would that apply to folks who started working in December 2007? Would the ten days in our contract still apply, or would we be entitled to the extra five?
Cheers
MD |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| MarionG wrote: |
| Korean Labor law says that for 2008, 15 days vacation is mandatory. Schools do not "give out" vacation days. It's a right, and it's the law. |
Korea is not Germany or Canada. It's on the books, but when it comes to hagwons they often flout the laws, because they know the government has minimal enforcement, does not crack down on corruption, illegal practices. So, in practice, many Koreans and foreigners often get shafted. I have heard about the 15 days, but there is a good chance the hagwons in most cases still have 10 days on there, and sometimes you can't pick your days to be in a row if you teach adults as one poster mentioned. Korea is backward when it comes to labour rights... That's definitely true from what I have seen... The Labour Standards don't mean that much in the private sector unless you work for a major corporation it seems... |
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