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[Whistleblower]

This has just been written on the Korea Times. I haven't had a chance to read it but the headline caught my eye. I hope the E2 Visa regulations become more logical. What's your opinion?

[Suwoner10]

Holy crap! I'm gonna be worth 5 million a month if I weather this visa crisis...as it will be a cold day in he11 when Korean parents accept their aspiring Ivy Leaguer to get school by a Paki.

[ceesgetdegrees]

Here come the phillipino's and indians!

Hahaha...and there we all were thinking that our wages were going to skyrocket, more like plummet! or stay stagnant at best.

Well the phillipina's and indians will be taking the crappy public school positions out in the sticks, there's no way a hagwon owner with any sense of business acumen will hire any.

I like the implistic reasoning of the korean immigration department though, less whiteys coming in, screw it , lets go for some cheap third world labour and see what happens.

I hope the teachers from india teach the kids that funny little head bobbing motion they do when they talk.

It'll be quite funny to see a bunch of indians working in public schools over here, indians can be as molly coddled, ignorant and full of themseleves as many koreans so to see the clash that happens when the indians find out how little regard koreans hold for them would be good to see.

[mistermasan]

quick check of wikipedia shows 53 nations with english as an official language. plenty of filipinas speak beautiful english. ditto s'pore and hong kong. globalism is coming for your job. the older you are the more vulnerable you'll be. enjoy the rest of your day.

[chronicpride]

On paper, this is huge news. Schools can now legally hire Filipinos, Indians, etc...But the underlying discriminatory hiring practices in Korean society will limit how much of an impact this make on the industry. Korean mothers are still really iffy about African-Americans and Asian-Americans teaching English, let alone Filipinos and Indians who have learned English as a 2nd language. It's a real tough sell. My guess is that some cheap hagwons will employ some Indians or Filipinos and will then see that the mothers of students are pulling their kids out in favor of the hagwon down the street that has a white-faced, Western teacher.

The only way this could work is if the Ministry of Education lightened up on restrictions over who can employ E2 teachers. Currently, there are a lot of hoops (ie., school must be over a certain pyeong size, etc..) in order to be legally able to employ an E2 teacher. If they dropped some of those restrictions, then the small ipshi hogwans and gongbubangs can be able to hire Filipino teachers for cheap, and become a low tuition alternative to more expensive foreign language hogwans.

[ceesgetdegrees]

And pleanty of koreans subscribe to the philosophy regarding english teachers that "if you ain't white, you ain't right", and that won't be changing for a long long time. Koreans hold south east asians, indians/pakistani's in incredibly low regard, let alone africans.

[hari seldon]

[matthews_world]

[Netz]

And to think, this all could have been avoided with the application of small amount of "common sense".

Too bad it's in such short supply in Korea.

[mistermasan]

this was planned all along. they will be able to get philipino doctors for what they are paying us. whoi better to teach med school students. they'll be able to bring in supurbly qualified candidates. they'll be able to bring in scads of qualified, certified teachers who won't run off and will be happy to stayin podunk for years.

[seoul101]

Good luck to them, I really don't care if there are less jobs here.. with the current climate of things, it would just be a bigger incentive to go home or elsewhere!

[articulate_ink]

If the level of English in some of these posts is any indication, Korea will be better-served by hiring educated, qualified Indians, Filipinos, Pakistanis, and so forth.

[yingwenlaoshi]

Koreans are having a harder time exploiting foreigners these days, so this will solve that problem. Forget about making life easier for current foreigners by making sure they get paid, pension, medical, and taxes. Forget about making sure our taxes are paid and that we can easily resolve labor disputes in order to make better relations between our countries and theirs. Forget about that.

Just hire some foreigners they can exploit. After all, it is we who are the evil ones. We are the ones that come into their country and smoke dope, rape women, and molest children. That's where the problem is. There's not need to do anything to assure we are dealt with fairly while in their country. Oh no. Those are not the issues. They don't exist.

Where do you see anything in the media about the problems Korean employers give to foreign teachers? Nowhere. Even though those are rampant and the major problems foreigners cause very isolated and/or not major, trivial problems that Koreans themselves are guilty of.

Hire some cheap labor. Announce that you are first. Then do it. Then let Korean employers continue to get away with corrupting foreign teachers.

[hari seldon]

[CentralCali]