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katydid



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Here kitty kitty kitty...

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scarneck wrote:
How about this: My old lady is from Seoul and doesn't like people from Cheollado...WTF is that about? Says they are too selfish and always have two faces...


Two minute explanation....Jeollado has always been looked at as the "Deep South" of South Korea. People there are supposedly unrefined yokels. It doesn't matter that when Korea first started having presidents, all the presidents focused their attention on their home provinces and ignored Jeolla-do, only home to Korea's 5th largest city.
When Kim De-jung (who apparently went to high school in Mokpo) came to office, things got better, but there is still the idea that Jeolla-do = hick town.
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scarneck wrote:
How about this: My old lady is from Seoul and doesn't like people from Cheollado...WTF is that about? Says they are too selfish and always have two faces...

I'd be willing to bet that your lady's family isn't originally from Seoul, and I'd further be willing to bet that her parents and/or grandparents came from Kyoungsando- it's a very old feud.
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Joe Thanks



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Dudleyville

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Seoul Superiority Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:

Stop believing the lie and making yourself angry for stupid reasons.


I'd agree.

Now Derrek, start updating your web page!


Cheers,

Joe
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katydid



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, that is very true too....I have heard most of the people "from Seoul" are not, and they just were lucky enough or scrappy enough to climb on the backs of others to get the hell out of the "hick" province and become "cosmopolitan" Seoulites.
I met a lot of Koreans when I was in Los Angeles. Guess where they said they were all from???
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't feel any Seoul superiority from any Seoulites I know, but they all tend to be a bit scared of actually leaving that familiar little weekend routine for something a bit different. Every time the request comes up for them to leave Seoul, even for one night of partying hard, they'll find some (generally) inane reason to try to get out of going.

I especially liked the one about catching a taxi after drinking from Cheonan to Seoul.
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waterbaby



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

katydid wrote:
You know, that is very true too....I have heard most of the people "from Seoul" are not, and they just were lucky enough or scrappy enough to climb on the backs of others to get the hell out of the "hick" province and become "cosmopolitan" Seoulites.
I met a lot of Koreans when I was in Los Angeles. Guess where they said they were all from???


Katydid - So many people do this when overseas! I do it too... who's going to know the name of my city... just outside Melbourne? I always say I'm from Melbourne when people ask. (Unless the person is from Melbourne - then they'll know where I grew up.) If you come from a city just outside LA... aren't you going to say LA or <insert small city name here>? I know I'm not being snooty or trying to sound more "cosmopolitan"...
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many Koreans that I met in Toronto/Hamilton were from Cholla Province. One was from Pusan and maybe a couple from Seoul. What's that about Katydid?

Harpeau
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Seoul Superiority Reply with quote

[quote="Derrek
You feel some sense of inferiority towards those from Seoul because of what life there "might" offer -- .[/quote]



What has Seoul to offer (except in terms of quantity) that say...Busan doesn't have. Most things that Seoul offers can be found abeit
in smaller amounts all over Korea. The two things that Seoul offers most appear to be lots of foreigners and a certain tolerance towards intra-racial dating. The first I can do without, and the second I have experienced in other places outside Seoul.
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, Maybe to thoughs who live in Seoul, Seoul rocks, but I am always happy when I leave Seoul, if I have been visiting. I like the rest of Korea much better. Seoul is very myopic, always has, and for the future will be.
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Joe Thanks



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Dudleyville

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weatherman wrote:
well, Maybe to thoughs who live in Seoul, Seoul rocks, but I am always happy when I leave Seoul, if I have been visiting. I like the rest of Korea much better. Seoul is very myopic, always has, and for the future will be.



Having lived in Seoul, I'm with weatherman on this. I found people of all sorts (expat and local) kinder and more reliable outside of Seoul. Local food was better, prices usually lower (save electronics), living more comfortable.


Cheers,

Joe
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I arrived in Seoul I was most disappointed one could not ride a bicycle around that easily. Often wish I was in one of those sleepy little towns.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Seoul Superiority Reply with quote

buddy bradley wrote:
Do foreigners who live in Seoul feel superior to foreigners who live elsewhere in South Korea?



No, just pity. I don't know how they do it.
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The evil penguin



Joined: 24 May 2003
Location: Doing something naughty near you.....

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being able to escape the traffic fumes without being stuck on the conjested roads for long periods of time has my vote.

Sure Jinju can be a tad bit boring. But come weekends, who cares? Jump on the bike and cruise up the coast roads. Wanna visit Busan? Soeul? Buses are dirt cheap. And the savings you make on accomodation here means that you can afford to motel it while you are doing the ol' big smoke trips.

The air is pretty clean, the river actually pretty scenic. Friendly people ('cept for a dickhead director) and cheap (korean) food. The big american food chains are here but very pricey. But who cares. I didn't come here to eat western food.

Soemthing I've noticed about the koreans. They like to create social hierachys in just about everything. Maybe makes 'em feel good about themselves. Soeulites are better Jeju-ites, Men are better then woman. White skin is better then black skin. Koreans are better then everybody. (although sometimes I get the feeling that they actually believe that they are somewhat "less" then us and resent us for it...)
Get the feelings sometimes that my korean co-workers resent me for making more money then them. I can understand the resentment. So they compensate by constantly giggling amongst themselves about my arm hairs. (am i paranoid?) In other words, I am on a lower hierachy based on my body hair. This sounds stupid but I'll continue. But because of my blonde hair and blue (grey actually but they can't tell the difference) eyes, however on another level I'm superior to them.
Its all bull-shit when it boils down to it but it keeps there petty minds occupied.
You do experience a similar thing back in Aussie. When i walk down Queenstreet Mall in Brisbane wearing my blundstone boots, king-G work shirt and smelling distinctly of horse and cows, i get a lot of condendsending glances. Understandable because I probably do stink.
But there can be a prestige thing about living in the city 'burbs.
Personally, who gives a dead dingos donger?
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denz



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: soapland. alternatively - the school of rock!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
I don't feel any Seoul superiority from any Seoulites I know, but they all tend to be a bit scared of actually leaving that familiar little weekend routine for something a bit different. Every time the request comes up for them to leave Seoul, even for one night of partying hard, they'll find some (generally) inane reason to try to get out of going.



naw, we're just lazy. look at bo duke, the boy always schedules things for hongdae so the most he has to do is put on some pants and walk downstairs.
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denz



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: Seoul Superiority Reply with quote

buddy bradley wrote:
Do foreigners who live in Seoul feel superior to foreigners who live elsewhere in South Korea?


i know i do.
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